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Craig_d1 said:
or just put the 4070 asus dual in there with the slightly cheaper more conventional case...or the 7800xt pulse at £450 that Tetras mentioned..should all be fine as running at 1440p

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I have both a Zotac Twin Edge 4070 and a 4070S and tbh they're spot on, zero issues, a nice long warranty, and honestly don't hear either under load.

That said, if you're particularly sensitive to sound levels, the Asus Dual is actually very quiet even compared to some triple fan cards.

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tamzzy said:
yes can vouch. built a tower with the asus 4070 dual for a friend and was actually pretty jealous it was so silent lol. even more silent than my own rig.
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It's one of the GPU related areas that winds me up a little tbh. Everyone seems to think you need a triple fan card for decent performance, but the reality is a lot of companies reuse their massively overbuilt HSF's for higher end stuff on lower end cards in order to charge a premium even when they absolutely do not need the same level of cooling. I'd even go as far as saying it's detrimental in some instances, either because of poorly fitting hardware it wasn't immediately designed for or because it skyrockets costs unnecessarily for the consumer.

The Asus Dual is impressive because it was decently designed, and I say that as someone that isn't a fan of the company.

The vast majority of 4070's are triple fan models for absolutely no reason other than pushing up costs to the end user while cutting them for the companies.
 
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Gray2233 said:
It's one of the GPU related areas that winds me up a little tbh. Everyone seems to think you need a triple fan card for decent performance, but the reality is a lot of companies reuse their massively overbuilt HSF's for higher end stuff on lower end cards in order to charge a premium even when they absolutely do not need the same level of cooling. I'd even go as far as saying it's detrimental in some instances, either because of poorly fitting hardware it wasn't immediately designed for or because it skyrockets costs unnecessarily for the consumer.
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Gigabyte uses sleeve bearings on their lower-end 3 fan cards too (Eagle & Gaming OC, though not the Aorus), which during the mining craze let's say didn't have the best reputation.
 
I think I'll opt for the 7800x3d build then with either a 4070 super or 7900 gre. Seems the sensible approach for a short term build :) just going to wait it out alittle longer see what happens with something in the members market place first. Thanks for the help people
 
rchads89 said:
Is the 5800x3d 7800xt still a good spec ?
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yeh its a decent spec but not at that price with what you can get now, if buying new am5 all the way :)

im upgrading from am4 at the moment but still waiting on a case that should have been here on friday, going 7800x3d from a 5700x and going to be using my radeon 7800xt in it which pretty much maxxes out any game at 1440p :)
 
Yrkoon said:
yeh its a decent spec but not at that price with what you can get now, if buying new am5 all the way :)

im upgrading from am4 at the moment but still waiting on a case that should have been here on friday, going 7800x3d from a 5700x and going to be using my radeon 7800xt in it which pretty much maxxes out any game at 1440p :)
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Been looking at those 7800xt great card. To be honest when I do briefly play on pc when I have one haha I don't play balls out max settings on games like counter strike and cod etc I tend not to see a great deal on max settings
 
rchads89 said:
Been looking at those 7800xt great card. To be honest when I do briefly play on pc when I have one haha I don't play balls out max settings on games like counter strike and cod etc I tend not to see a great deal on max settings
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7700x vs 7800x3d...read some of the coments 2..1 guy has both with a 7800XT and a 4080Super...sayts you see the difference with the 4080super, but using a 7800xt, it's pretty much a wash and go for the cheaper cpu....as you're thinking of a more budget buld this time I agree with @tamzzy ...go for the 7700X on MM...you're saving over £100..oh and look at games..yes counterstrike gives you a lift but COD makes no difference between the x and x3d cpu's



then again, my b'day at the end of Sep..prob when you want to shift it along...get the x3d chip and I'll take it off your hands 1/2 price :) :cry:...need to upgrade the 5800x pc at some point...though I'm really interested in how the 9600x will perform
 
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tamzzy said:
@Craig_d1 some people just have too much money :cry:
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very easy to do though when all these vids dangle these little trinkets in front of your eyes...I wish they'd also do theses tests with mid range cards...HU just did the 5600x/5800x/5950x and 5800x3d again paired with a 4090.....but who is buying a 5600x now and sticking a 4090 on it...it just makes the 5800x3d look great but a lot of people will be sticking a 6700XT/7700XT/3070 etc, maybe more...but I want to see results with a mid range card..will be boring results but thats the point...will show that to run a midrange card you don't need the greatest cpu in the world, as you'll be leaving a lot of it's potential unutilised
 
Craig_d1 said:
very easy to do though when all these vids dangle these little trinkets in front of your eyes...I wish they'd also do theses tests with mid range cards...HU just did the 5600x/5800x/5950x and 5800x3d again paired with a 4090.....but who is buying a 5600x now and sticking a 4090 on it...it just makes the 5800x3d look great but a lot of people will be sticking a 6700XT/7700XT/3070 etc, maybe more...but I want to see results with a mid range card..will be boring results but thats the point...will show that to run a midrange card you don't need the greatest cpu in the world, as you'll be leaving a lot of it's potential unutilised
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I went from a 3700X to a 5800X3D on a 4070, I saw massive uplift in numerous games, especially with the lows, this was at 2560x1080 and 2560x1440. This made for a vastly smoother and more enjoyable experience, I have zero regrets on my end.

It does depend to an extent on what you play, Dying Light 2 was a gigantic difference for example.

We've had numerous people on here that were having problems with Warzone over the past couple of months, usually on a decent mid range card with a slightly older AM4 chip like a 3000-5000 series. Every single time the shift to an (AM4) X3D has solved their issues, usually with a thread load of naysayers saying that it isn't worth it because you only get a couple of FPS more on average. In a competitive game the lows are arguably a lot more important, smoothness of play can greatly improve your ability to land shots on enemy targets. When you're examining the benefit of X3D chips you really need to look at those lows in some games, people are still far too hardwired into only looking at max frames.

That said, if I was buying into AM5 on anything less than a 4080 or equivalent/better I'd opt for a 7600 with a view to upgrade to a later gen X3D given my use case.
 
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Gray2233 said:
I went from a 3700X to a 5800X3D on a 4070, I saw massive uplift in numerous games, especially with the lows, this was at 2560x1080 and 2560x1440. This made for a vastly smoother and more enjoyable experience, I have zero regrets on my end.

It does depend to an extent on what you play, Dying Light 2 was a gigantic difference for example.

We've had numerous people on here that were having problems with Warzone over the past couple of months, usually on a decent mid range card with a slightly older AM4 chip like a 3000-5000 series. Every single time the shift to an X3D has solved their issues, usually with a thread load of naysayers saying that it isn't worth it because you only get a couple of FPS more on average. In a competitive game the lows are arguably a lot more important, smoothness of play can greatly improve your ability to land shots on enemy targets. When you're examining the benefit of X3D chips you really need to look at those lows in some games, people are still far too hardwired into only looking at max frames.

That said, if I was buying into AM5 on anything less than a 4080 or equivalent/better I'd opt for a 7600 with a view to upgrade to a later gen X3D given my use case.
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that is true, but again, depends on the games..if your playing competetive shooters, you care about max fps over everything else, turning down all your settings etc etc...just watched someone yesterday on yt playing tranked fortnite with a 5600x and 3070ti...he was getting well over 250fps and his lows were well in mid 100's...so a lot depends on the game...most people don't have monitors that do more than 165hz
I do actually remember the arguement with warzone..guy was playing on 1440p ultrawide..I said he'd get +10fps uplift, which he go 10/15...but his 1% lows did improve...but he was umming and arring about getting a 4090/7800x3d for himself anyway..I still think am5 with a 7600 would have smoothed those 1% lows out also as the cpu is much faster is single core..OCuk are selling the 5800x3d for £315...that just too much imho. you've paid for the cpu and ram for am5, and flogging the am4 existing mobo/cpu/ram would cover the mobo cost..you'd then have a new am5 platform, which when he upgrades his system, his son would have had am5 as well with a better upgrade path. tbh, either option is good, guy got his gaming playing without stutters, but £300 for an eol platform cpu that's 2years old now....it's ahard pill to swallow i think...if it was £175/£200 then it's a different conversation
 
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The 5700X3D is more palatable at £210 or so, I paid roughly £260 for a 5800X3D last year. Plus I couldn't be arsed with a full platform update, too busy with other things.

At £300 I generally argue in favour of entry level AM5 tbh.

As for that streamer, getting 100fps dips would have had a horrendous effect if they happened at the wrong time. Frankly, I've not came across many of them that knew their arse from their elbow in terms of competence hardware wise or gameplay wise. If you spend 12 hours a day playing the same games you're going to get better than most regardless.
 
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Gray2233 said:
The 5700X3D is more palatable at £210 or so, I paid roughly £260 for a 5800X3D last year. Plus I couldn't be arsed with a full platform update, too busy with other things.

At £300 I generally argue in favour of entry level AM5 tbh.

As for that streamer, getting 100fps dips would have had a horrendous effect if they happened at the wrong time. Frankly, I've not came across many of them that knew their arse from their elbow in terms of competence hardware wise or gameplay wise. If you spend 12 hours a day playing the same games you're going to get better than most regardless.
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I can see the appeal...a year ago, the 5800x3d was only a year old, £50 cheaper and am5 mobo's were more expensive, same as cpu's so jump to am5 more of a outlay...just seen the tuf b650-e gaming wifi on offer a £155..wish I hadn't loked...giving me the itch to upgrade my am4 rig :cry:
 
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