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AMD `Fine Wine` 2022 vs 2024
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Starfield is a massive outlier, he should remove that really as it's skewing the results.
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I wonder how Nvidia's drivers have matured over the same time? Are AMD's particularly good or it that how these things typically work?
I guess Intel too but I guess it's a bit different for them as they probably got big gains this iteration.
I guess Intel too but I guess it's a bit different for them as they probably got big gains this iteration.
Just had the same thought
. Would be nice to see nvidia drivers tested the same way.
Iirc HUB have done it a few times, but likely not with the original drivers included.Just had the same thought
He'll probably do an NV vid, it'll even out if there's comparisons to be made.
That's a lot, i have no doubt the 40 series has also improved with drivers, i'm looking forward to seeing how the compare now, he will no doubt do a comparison.
And the old GPU, would like to know how the 7800 XT compares with the 6800 XT, if this is RDNA 3 specific or if it applies to RDNA 2.
And the old GPU, would like to know how the 7800 XT compares with the 6800 XT, if this is RDNA 3 specific or if it applies to RDNA 2.
ComputerBase just did something similar.
www.computerbase.de
However they didn't do a direct comparison between then and now. Nor even the relatives scores since the test game suite is not the same.
So you can go back to their Vega 64 review.
www.computerbase.de
A bit hard on the phone but 1440P frame times now has 1080Ti at 114% (where Vega 64 100%). Back in the Vega 64 review, 1080Ti was 121%.
Positive movement but not that spectacular. The article does mention that 8GB Vs 11GB makes a difference though.
Fine Wine Revisited: GTX 1080 Ti vs. RX Vega 64 (2024): Die Testergebnisse
GTX 1080 Ti vs. RX Vega 64 (2024): Die Testergebnisse / Ein Blick zurück ins Jahr 2017 / Performance Rating FPS & Frametimes
www.computerbase.de
So you can go back to their Vega 64 review.
Radeon RX Vega 64 & 56 im Test: Der helle Stern wirft lange Schatten (Seite 4)
Radeon RX Vega 64 & 56 im Test: Der helle Stern wirft lange Schatten / Benchmarks in 1.920 × 1.080 und 2.560 × 1.440
www.computerbase.de
A bit hard on the phone but 1440P frame times now has 1080Ti at 114% (where Vega 64 100%). Back in the Vega 64 review, 1080Ti was 121%.
Positive movement but not that spectacular. The article does mention that 8GB Vs 11GB makes a difference though.
Whilst praying that 7800xt is now actually better than last gen
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This was taken from when the 6800XT released compared to how it stacked up 3 years later with the 3080.
Basically this, there isn't a 24% performance increase because of Fine Wine or whatever. It was a very badly done test.
He should have used games that were out before 22.12.1 drivers and compared those same games on the 24.12.1 and measured the improvement, if any.
Using games that were released a year after the 22.12.1 driver is stupid. Because you aren't proving anything, because newer games would have specific improvements for those games. Those improvements haven't got anything to do with fine wine.
Notice how the games with the biggest improvements are games that were released after December 2022? Like Starfield and The Last of Us. What's worse he mentions that at the start of the video that he is only using older games that were released before the 22.12.1 drivers but then throws in Starfield and The Last of US.
What nonsense is that?Probably more down to game patches than drivers, many games release in a poor state nowadays and takes a few years to optimise.
I am almost certain they don't test most of tue setups again when new hardware releases, they just use the stuff they did at release.This was taken from when the 6800XT released compared to how it stacked up 3 years later with the 3080.
From who?
Most reviewers don't revisit benchmarks again and a lot of the time they don't with AMD.
Extreme few have done it in the past and one of them is HUB and LTT years ago.
Every other time we see a revisit is when a game puts out an update thats usually tied to Nvidia cough cough DF.
The channel in question is AMD focused and covers topics like this a lot.
My on topic point, is something that perhaps said ages ago, AMD should have this performance closer on release.
We don't normally see Nvidia improve outside where games have issues as they pretty much get their full performance on release which I actually appreciate more.
Fine wine is kinda a bad excuse for what isn't rushed release as opposed to not reaching out to devs more to get games working better with their hardware sooner.
I think whom ever deals with COD is one of the few devs that probably do since COD favours AMD massively.
A bit harsh, I know the videos have some issues, but he's contributing to the discussion with some novel videos and e.g. has started including productivity benches in the GPU reviews, which I appreciate since those are pretty sparse.