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I'm already thinking that the 4090 is going to hold most of its original value for at least another year, so there goes the possibility of picking up a used one of those at a decent discount.
What are your predictions for the rest of the 40 series cards on the used market?
Are you waiting to pick one up? Which model and at what price?
I'm hoping that the release of the 5070TI might see the 4080's (including the SUPER variant) go down to around the 650 mark. Am I being optimistic?
What about the 4070TI Super? What do you think will be the likely scenario for one of those?
The market will decide once the cards are in the wild, things could change either way quite quickly. For my money the 4090 will hold some of it's value, but not the £1500+ it had been commanding.
The RTX is still worth hanging on to for gaming. In addition, a recent analysis concluded in other tasks it was still 30% faster than the 5080. If anything was going to retain its value, it will be this.
Other considerations:
Memory
First, let’s discuss the most important feature: the VRAM. The RTX 5080 comes packed with 16GB of GDDR7 VRAM, while the RTX 4090 offers 24GB of GDDR6X VRAM. In other words, the RTX 5080 is nowhere near the flagship GPU in terms of VRAM.
It does, however, offer a better and faster memory type, GDDR7, which should help it deliver better performance than cards that have 16GB of GDDR6 VRAM. However, 4090 has almost 8GB more, so 5080 won’t be able to keep up with it even with the better memory type and newer architecture. In demanding games that consume a lot of memory, especially at 4K, you’ll be better off with a card like the 4090.
However, with the RTX 5080, we were hoping to see a VRAM upgrade over the 4080, which also offers 16GB of VRAM. This was a bit disappointing considering its competitor, AMD, is introducing this much VRAM in its mid-range options, whereas the RTX 5080 is a high-end model. Even Intel seems to be going in the right direction, as their budget GPUs now offer 10 and 12GB VRAM. For the RTX 5080, we expected at least 20GB of VRAM.
Cores
When it comes to the CUDA cores, the RTX 5080 offers 10,752 cores, while the 4090 once again takes the lead with 16,384 cores. This is a difference of 5,632 cores, which is massive.
For those who don’t know, CUDA cores are responsible for processing tasks simultaneously. The more cores a GPU has, the better it will perform in resource-hungry tasks. Even though the RTX 5080 has 4th-generation Ray Tracing cores and 5th-generation Tensor cores, the difference of 5,632 cores won’t allow it to compete with the 4090 in terms of raw performance. While these cores will help it perform significantly better than its predecessor, it just won’t be able to keep up with the flagship GPU.
Clock speeds
As far as the clock speeds are concerned, the RTX 5080 operates at a base frequency of 2.30 GHz and offers a boost frequency of 2.62 GHz. On the other hand, the RTX 4090 has a base clock of 2.23 GHz and a boost clock of 2.52 GHz.
Now, after reading this, you may think that the 5080 is a bit faster than the 4090 in terms of clock speeds. While higher clock speeds do mean that the 5080 can process more data per cycle, it still won’t be able to match the 4090’s performance due to the difference of 5,632 cores between them. So, having slightly higher clock speeds won’t give the 5080 an advantage over the 4090 in any way.
The RTX is still worth hanging on to for gaming. In addition, a recent analysis concluded in other tasks it was still 30% faster than the 5080. If anything was going to retain its value, it will be this.
Other considerations:
Memory
First, let’s discuss the most important feature: the VRAM. The RTX 5080 comes packed with 16GB of GDDR7 VRAM, while the RTX 4090 offers 24GB of GDDR6X VRAM. In other words, the RTX 5080 is nowhere near the flagship GPU in terms of VRAM.
It does, however, offer a better and faster memory type, GDDR7, which should help it deliver better performance than cards that have 16GB of GDDR6 VRAM. However, 4090 has almost 8GB more, so 5080 won’t be able to keep up with it even with the better memory type and newer architecture. In demanding games that consume a lot of memory, especially at 4K, you’ll be better off with a card like the 4090.
However, with the RTX 5080, we were hoping to see a VRAM upgrade over the 4080, which also offers 16GB of VRAM. This was a bit disappointing considering its competitor, AMD, is introducing this much VRAM in its mid-range options, whereas the RTX 5080 is a high-end model. Even Intel seems to be going in the right direction, as their budget GPUs now offer 10 and 12GB VRAM. For the RTX 5080, we expected at least 20GB of VRAM.
Cores
When it comes to the CUDA cores, the RTX 5080 offers 10,752 cores, while the 4090 once again takes the lead with 16,384 cores. This is a difference of 5,632 cores, which is massive.
For those who don’t know, CUDA cores are responsible for processing tasks simultaneously. The more cores a GPU has, the better it will perform in resource-hungry tasks. Even though the RTX 5080 has 4th-generation Ray Tracing cores and 5th-generation Tensor cores, the difference of 5,632 cores won’t allow it to compete with the 4090 in terms of raw performance. While these cores will help it perform significantly better than its predecessor, it just won’t be able to keep up with the flagship GPU.
Clock speeds
As far as the clock speeds are concerned, the RTX 5080 operates at a base frequency of 2.30 GHz and offers a boost frequency of 2.62 GHz. On the other hand, the RTX 4090 has a base clock of 2.23 GHz and a boost clock of 2.52 GHz.
Now, after reading this, you may think that the 5080 is a bit faster than the 4090 in terms of clock speeds. While higher clock speeds do mean that the 5080 can process more data per cycle, it still won’t be able to match the 4090’s performance due to the difference of 5,632 cores between them. So, having slightly higher clock speeds won’t give the 5080 an advantage over the 4090 in any way.
Agreed. If only I'd bought one on release
Can't bring myself to pay almost full wack for a used one at that price and two years later...I'd probably go up to 700 quid but that probably won't happen for a good few years yet (3090 still going for around 600 quid).
I'm already thinking that the 4090 is going to hold most of its original value for at least another year, so there goes the possibility of picking up a used one of those at a decent discount.
What are your predictions for the rest of the 40 series cards on the used market?
Are you waiting to pick one up? Which model and at what price?
I'm hoping that the release of the 5070TI might see the 4080's (including the SUPER variant) go down to around the 650 mark. Am I being optimistic?
What about the 4070TI Super? What do you think will be the likely scenario for one of those?
Fall massivley, performance doesnt dictate the market, being able to tell everyone at least 6 times a day you own a 5090 does. Who wants to have a 4*** in their signature when thats so last year and worth zero internet points.
Great for me though as these days I care more about houses, cars, nice holdays, than how shiney and powerful my hardware is. Escpecially as most games I dont play until at least 12 months after launch. Be keeping my eye out for a cheap 4070ti or super on the MM.
Can't see big price drops even on the used market, the gen is barely a refresh. People will just hold unto their GPU for longer -> even used prices stay high. We already saw this happen with CPUs.
It will have some impact but I'm guessing it won't be massive at least not initially due to the combination of mixed improvements and guessing limited availability/not quite as good pricing as some people hope.
I see them hovering around £1250-1350 used for a while after the 5-series release. It looks like they'll end up 10% faster than 5080 (with more VRAM) and 35% slower than 5090 (with slower RT/PT). When you consider other variables like depreciation, lack of warranty etc. that's the range people will rationalize paying.
For myself, I wouldn't consider paying more than £1200 for one. That's still a lot of money for a used card, and used graphics cards aren't like cars that can be repaired, and companies are more and more restrictive on warranties (despite your seller promising to hand over the invoice). Normally, when they go kaput, you're out of luck.
Once the 5080 refresh comes (which I'd expect late 2025), used 4090 prices will drop precipetously.
Their are probably threads like this on every forum telling potential sellers how much the potential buyers are likely to pay for such cards. Going for the halo card is always a bad idea value wise. Always. Just use the money you would have used to buy the newer one level down lower model. Or even better buy another brand.
If anything it looks like the AMD 9070 cards might have a larger impact than the new Nvidia cards! Although i wonder how many Nvidia 40-series owners would be willing to trade in for an AMD card?
I see them hovering around £1250-1350 used for a while after the 5-series release. It looks like they'll end up 10% faster than 5080 (with more VRAM) and 35% slower than 5090 (with slower RT/PT). When you consider other variables like depreciation, lack of warranty etc. that's the range people will rationalize paying.
For myself, I wouldn't consider paying more than £1200 for one. That's still a lot of money for a used card, and used graphics cards aren't like cars that can be repaired, and companies are more and more restrictive on warranties (despite your seller promising to hand over the invoice). Normally, when they go kaput, you're out of luck.
Once the 5080 refresh comes (which I'd expect late 2025), used 4090 prices will drop precipetously.
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