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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

Jay-G25 said:
If you got a Astral LC you can make an extra £5000 it seems , was one listed on Ebay recently which sold for over £8000 .... in what world is a gaming gpu worth paying nearly 10k for :confused: honestly the people buying these are thick as excrement and clearly need their head looking into:rolleyes:
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thats gotta be fake, people listing and same account holder buying, just to show desperation and inflate prices for scalpers
 
magill05 said:
Better keep spamming the forums to get access to that MM for future upgrades then! :D Doesn't seem like what I paid was massively over the odds then, was good to see it working before buying though.
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lol I've been a member for years still not got access to MM. Blimey just checked over 15 years,
 
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hobib_ali said:
thats gotta be fake, people listing and same account holder buying, just to show desperation and inflate prices for scalpers
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You can't buy your own items on ebay afaik unless he created a separate account and purchased it that way but seems a complete waste of time to do something like that .
 
Question for those of you selling your old cards on ebay. I've always sold my old cards with no issue, for a decade now. 1080s, Titans, etc. But now reading this thread I'm worried about the whole "people will buy my 4090 as a temporary stopgap, and then return it when their 5090 arrives" thing. According to posts earlier on in this thread, a buyer can just pretend it's broken, return it, and there's no verification or check, the order just gets refunded. What's everyone doing with their old cards? Are you waiting for 5000 stock to be better to reduce this risk? Or is there something you can do with ebay to prevent that kind of return from happening?
 
Always have to remember........Lotto winners/millionaires have to get their components and stuff the same as everyone else.

Dropping 5-8K for something they can have now as opposed to hoping for a break or sitting on a discord doesnt have the same charm to be fair

There will always be someone willling to pay inflated pricing for desired products. I'd rather they don't reward chancers, but we are where we are.
 
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RS61 said:
Question for those of you selling your old cards on ebay. I've always sold my old cards with no issue, for a decade now. 1080s, Titans, etc. But now reading this thread I'm worried about the whole "people will buy my 4090 as a temporary stopgap, and then return it when their 5090 arrives" thing. According to posts earlier on in this thread, a buyer can just pretend it's broken, return it, and there's no verification or check, the order just gets refunded. What's everyone doing with their old cards? Are you waiting for 5000 stock to be better to reduce this risk? Or is there something you can do with ebay to prevent that kind of return from happening?
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It's pure luck, its still very rare to be properly ripped off (i.e. return a brick). As for returning within 30 days, there's no way to avoid this and it can happen anytime with any product, at any price.

Just make sure you pay for full insurance, I use DPD through parcel2go.
 
RS61 said:
Question for those of you selling your old cards on ebay. I've always sold my old cards with no issue, for a decade now. 1080s, Titans, etc. But now reading this thread I'm worried about the whole "people will buy my 4090 as a temporary stopgap, and then return it when their 5090 arrives" thing. According to posts earlier on in this thread, a buyer can just pretend it's broken, return it, and there's no verification or check, the order just gets refunded. What's everyone doing with their old cards? Are you waiting for 5000 stock to be better to reduce this risk? Or is there something you can do with ebay to prevent that kind of return from happening?
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This is one of the reasons I don't tend to sell on eBay.
They always side with the buyer and never with the seller.

There is absolutely nothing stopping a user buying a product waiting 28 days then stating it is faulty and no longer working, even when they return it and it is fully working it doesn't matter as soon as the item is back in transit the refund is given to the buyer.
Some buyers I had this happen once where they even damaged the card themselves on purpose to get a refund - Even when I sent photos to eBay that the item was immaculate and in mint condition when it left me, they refused to re-open the case and sided with the buyer.

FB is full of muppets and people offering you 50% off half the time or people trying to SCAM you, but you will get kind of what you want and via bank transfer - So it is probably the best way to sell.
But you will end up with about £100-£300 less than eBay, but sometimes the hassle and anxiety of selling on eBay just isn't worth it.
 
I've never had good experiences selling on eBay, particularly when selling tech. I've been lucky with a couple of previous GPUs that I've had friends wanting to buy them. Yes, I gave a "mate's rate" around 25% below what I might have managed on eBay, but there was just less hassle all-round. When that hasn't been possible, I've taken the card to... oh dear... CEX. Yes, they absolutely rip you off, but once you've got the money, you never need think about it again.
 
RS61 said:
Question for those of you selling your old cards on ebay. I've always sold my old cards with no issue, for a decade now. 1080s, Titans, etc. But now reading this thread I'm worried about the whole "people will buy my 4090 as a temporary stopgap, and then return it when their 5090 arrives" thing. According to posts earlier on in this thread, a buyer can just pretend it's broken, return it, and there's no verification or check, the order just gets refunded. What's everyone doing with their old cards? Are you waiting for 5000 stock to be better to reduce this risk? Or is there something you can do with ebay to prevent that kind of return from happening?
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You've been lucky. I'd say 1/3 of my card sales over the past year have ended up being returns -- it seems to have gotten worse over the past few years as "buyers" look at it as a rent-to-try service with many gaming the system. During high-volume/high-liquidity/high-priced times like this around GPU launches, the probability of you getting a return are much higher. And like you say, buyers can return for any reason whatsoever for 30 days with no recourse for the seller and the buyer always wins. In short, it's asking for trouble selling now.

As an aside, while there are other risks with this in the US, it's much less likely for sellers to get burnt as the return period is much shorter and the seller is often protected. When I moved over to the UK, I was super surprised how many people felt entitled to return goods that they'd effectively contracted to buy that were perfectly good and as described.

The service is a long way off when I first used it in 2000 to buy a Pani Laser Disc player and lot of 30 Criterion discs for $60. The seller was local, asked me to stop over to collect, and had me stay for a lovely dinner with his family (which I kindly accepted being a destitude student).

Edit: My apologies, missed responding to your question on guidance. A few points I follow:
  • Sell at a reasonable price
  • You can't add hard rules, but I have disclaimers about not selling to >1-year members with less than 20 feedback
  • I have a few other disclaimer points to scare away fraudsters e.g. only sending to confirmed address, shipping promptly (I've had a buyer ask me to wait to send for a week, obviously trying to time to have return window end after a card launch), taking serial numbers
  • Never sell within 30 days of a card launch, or when stock of new cards is incoming (now, for example); state no low-ball or out-of-terms offers
  • Sell at a reasonable price, making the sale more attractive to keep for the buyer -- don't be greedy. I sold my RTX 4090 Strix in late November for £1650 which was a fair used price, and not one that the buyer would be looking to return now. Remember those £2000+ sold prices you're seeing at present won't stick have a super high probability of the buyer returning and/or other tomfoolery -- not worth the headache
  • Communicate with the buyer. You can often suss out bad apples, and if you're spidey sense it tingling, don't accept offers from sellers (if offers are in play)
 
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SuperElectric said:
A competitor is taking 5080 preorders for 14th Feb.
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Like others have mentioned you’d assume with the RTX 5070 series out soon (20th February iirc) that stock will be available to some degree by then.

Presumably the RTX 5070 and 5070Ti won’t be particularly attractive to scalpers given they’re less performant than a previous generation 4080?

I’d also expect they’re likely to be slower than the upcoming AMD 7900 XT & XTX cards due for March release as well given they’re cheaper which should reduce demand somewhat?
 
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RS61 said:
Question for those of you selling your old cards on ebay. I've always sold my old cards with no issue, for a decade now. 1080s, Titans, etc. But now reading this thread I'm worried about the whole "people will buy my 4090 as a temporary stopgap, and then return it when their 5090 arrives" thing. According to posts earlier on in this thread, a buyer can just pretend it's broken, return it, and there's no verification or check, the order just gets refunded. What's everyone doing with their old cards? Are you waiting for 5000 stock to be better to reduce this risk? Or is there something you can do with ebay to prevent that kind of return from happening?
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If I've understood it correctly they only have a month after it's delivered to open a return request.

At the end of the day if a buyer wants to screw you, they have plenty of methods available to do so. I've been selling there for like 20 years, heavily so in the last 10 years and I don't think I could count genuine examples of people trying to rob me on two hands, maybe my memory is going but the point remains, most people are decent. Saying that I still worry whenever I sell something popular like an expensive gpu, camera etc but ultimately if you're uncomfortable with risk, just compromise and avoid that platform.
 
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