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From what I have seen power colour are doing the reaper which is a two slot job and will be on the cheaper end. Not long now.
 
humbug said:
I think £600 is a good price for that, its £200 less than the 5070 Ti, or to put it another way the 5070 Ti would be 33% more expensive.
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People are complaining about the Nvidia prices but then saying AMD being 20% cheaper is a good price?
Didn't they try that already and drop to 10% marketshare?

Seems crazy that £750 for the market leader is a crazy price but 20% lower for a company with just 10% marketshare is a good price for a product we don't have any actual performance figures for (unlike the Nvidia card) just leaks.

If Dyson made a £300 vacuum cleaner and people said the price was a bit high following reviews and then some unknown Chinese brand announce one for 20% less, people would say that was a good price without seeing reviews?
 
RavenXXX2 said:
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Nooooooooooo!

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GhostDog1981 said:
Does the fact that there are no MBAs mean there won’t be an iron-clad floor for the msrp? Allowing aibs to price theirs $100-200 (or more!) above?
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Yeah this is actually kinda concerning... no MSRP* means no anchor point, so AIBs and retailers can scalp us seven ways to Sunday :(

*I know AMD may still say "prices from X", or similar, but that doesn't mean anything if there isn't a tangible product that is always sold at that price behind it (a la NV FE)

Blackjack Davy said:
They were only ever available in limited numbers at launch and then no more after that I don't know why people are getting so worked up about it
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Over here you could still get reference 7900XTX and 7900XT cards direct from AMD. They are, imo, the best cards. Sleek, simple, and no potential AIB meddling.
 
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AMD used to do this, Sapphire would make their reference model for them and ship to the other AIN who would just put their sticker and box on it.

It’s a shame they are not doing it this time round, maybe there was noise from AIBs that the ref model was eating to many sales of an already small market.

It is concerning but I trust Sapphire, XTX and Powercolor to deliver MSRP products like Pulse etc.

100% don’t trust Gigabyte or ASU’s though, they’ll gouge for certain
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
People are complaining about the Nvidia prices but then saying AMD being 20% cheaper is a good price?
Didn't they try that already and drop to 10% marketshare?

Seems crazy that £750 for the market leader is a crazy price but 20% lower for a company with just 10% marketshare is a good price for a product we don't have any actual performance figures for (unlike the Nvidia card) just leaks.

If Dyson made a £300 vacuum cleaner and people said the price was a bit high following reviews and then some unknown Chinese brand announce one for 20% less, people would say that was a good price without seeing reviews?
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Hardly some unknown Chinese brand though are they? More like a Dyson vs a BOSCH vacuum cleaner. Not a big market share in the space but well known, been in the game for years and have a decent market share else where.
 
Slightly off topic but when did XFX get good? Back in the day they were renowned for selling cards with slower memory and cheaper PCBs than the likes of Sapphire. I do notice most of the cheaper deals are on XFX cards.

May consider them if they've improved.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
People are complaining about the Nvidia prices but then saying AMD being 20% cheaper is a good price?
Didn't they try that already and drop to 10% marketshare?

Seems crazy that £750 for the market leader is a crazy price but 20% lower for a company with just 10% marketshare is a good price for a product we don't have any actual performance figures for (unlike the Nvidia card) just leaks.

If Dyson made a £300 vacuum cleaner and people said the price was a bit high following reviews and then some unknown Chinese brand announce one for 20% less, people would say that was a good price without seeing reviews?
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Every generation for the last 8 years AMD has launched a card capable of matching or beating the previous gen Nvidia 80 class for at or under £500 and yet they have lost market share but now people are saying that £600+ is an ok price for AMD when it badly needs market share, it’s insane.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
People are complaining about the Nvidia prices but then saying AMD being 20% cheaper is a good price?
Didn't they try that already and drop to 10% marketshare?

Seems crazy that £750 for the market leader is a crazy price but 20% lower for a company with just 10% marketshare is a good price for a product we don't have any actual performance figures for (unlike the Nvidia card) just leaks.

If Dyson made a £300 vacuum cleaner and people said the price was a bit high following reviews and then some unknown Chinese brand announce one for 20% less, people would say that was a good price without seeing reviews?
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If people are prepared to pay scalper prices for Nvidia products, these will fly off the shelves at $600 - $700 and even higher. It’s more about consumer behaviour does not incentivise AMD (or Nvidia) to provide good value products.

So in essence while we would like AMD to come in at great value, they don’t need to.
 
Sumanji said:
My tier list for Radeons would be something like:

1. Sapphire
2. Powercolor, XFX
3. "Big 3" (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte)
4. Acer, ASRock (just because they're newer)
5. Remaining rando brands that aren't sold in the west
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Pretty much this although I’d probably put Asrock higher than ASU’s and Gigabyte, and MSI don’t make AMD GPU’s anymore I believe, not that big would buy one after the 2 MSI 290’s I had both had terrible heat issues tied to their poor engineering, cooling and backplates.

Best Cards to look for are

Sapphire Nitro (Toxxic if they ever redo them)

Powercolor Red Devil or Liquid Devil

XFX Merc was decent but they have changed their naming so waiting to see

Asrock Taichi series
 
KentMan said:
Pretty much this although I’d probably put Asrock higher than ASU’s and Gigabyte, and MSI don’t make AMD GPU’s anymore I believe, not that big would buy one after the 2 MSI 290’s I had both had terrible heat issues tied to their poor engineering, cooling and backplates.

Best Cards to look for are

Sapphire Nitro (Toxxic if they ever redo them)

Powercolor Red Devil or Liquid Devil

XFX Merc was decent but they have changed their naming so waiting to see

Asrock Taichi series
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I like the way the taichi looks, but I'm not buying anything with a 12 pin connector
 
Sumanji said:
Honestly in the same boat dude... Mainly because most of the other monstrosities won't fit in my case :cry:
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MBA was the only SFF option in past gens.

Lots of social media backlash on lack of 9070 series mba.

I’m hoping to give my 7800XT mba to my son to build his first SFF pc when I eventually upgrade!
 
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Does it reallly matter what it looks like if it’s stuck in your case and the case is on the floor or you don’t a window etc?

Even if it’s on show you’re staring at a monitor not at the card right? What’s the worst that can happen someone pops by and says wow that’s an ugly GPU? Lol

I don’t get the issue with how a card looks, as long as it’s thermally good, acoustically good and gives the performance I want what does it really matter what it looks like? As I say you don’t spend much if any time staring at it surely lol
 
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