*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Raelgun]

All with large pinches of salt remember, Just some random internet guy who claims to be able to get these results through a reviewer friend in Spain. He also posted about the 5080 only being about 10% faster than a 4080 last year but got slated in the NVidia subreddit but here we are.

The info leak regards to the delay when someone contacted a retailer was 100 percent current though.

 

[Poneros]

Some more information from the same person I posted about before. This person claims to be in close contact with someone who has access to 9070 and 9070XT for reviews:

PATH TRACING in 4K the 9070XT got 10FPS and the 9070 got 8 FPS (5080 scored 15FPS and 5070Ti got 12FPS)

Here you go, some numbers from a review sample OCing takes it to 5080 levels, but you can also overclock the 5080, that's true

One could almost trick himself into believing this if not for the PT numbers which are pure BS. There's just not enough hopium in the universe for that.

 

[Mercurial]

How likely is it retailers will engage the scalp thrusters as well do we think?

I reckon it is odds on. Even if supply is good.

 

[Ayahuasca]

One could almost trick himself into believing this if not for the PT numbers which are pure BS. There's just not enough hopium in the universe for that.

The PT numbers look about right, with the 5080 being about 50% better at PT than the 9070XT. RT is where they've improved significantly.

 

[uscool]

If the RT gap has closed that much , guess the green brigade can move the focus to buuuuuut upscaling

 

[ICDP]

He did also state that he is hearing rumours of retailers pushing prices up into €800 area though for release due to the current ongoing scalping and Nvidia shortages.

This is my expectation. I wonder if AMD will do anything if true.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

If the RT gap has closed that much , guess the green brigade can move the focus to buuuuuut upscaling

Just wait until 8x MFG comes. It'll be the best thing ever.

 

[MyBrainz]

Sounds like Vega 64 and 56 again

I had the Red Dragon Vega 56 and it was an amazing GPU.. I may have to go for the non XT this time around, if those specs are 100% true then they look pretty good for my use.

My budget is £500 tops though, get me back on the Red Team AMD

 

[gpuerrilla]

If the RT gap has closed that much , guess the green brigade can move the focus to buuuuuut upscaling

Lets be brutal. It was always about RT and upscaling, until its not. Then there will be another excuse..

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

$700 isnt mid range, cant see AMD donning the clowns suits for another launch, any more than $600 and they leant nothing imo. im dying to upgrade my 3070

 

[Bidley]

Only two days left for everyone to chime in and say that it can't be priced over $600 a few more times!

 

[harmattan]

Some more information from the same person I posted about before. This person claims to be in close contact with someone who has access to 9070 and 9070XT for reviews:

Cyberpunk 2077 (custom scene, 4K, no RT)

9070XT = 63FPS avg, 9070 = 52FPS avg (5070Ti scored 60FPS, 5080 scored 69FPS)

Alan Wake 2 (4K, no RT, custom scene)

9070XT = 59FPS, 9070 = 48FPS (5070Ti scored 55 FPS, 5080 scored 63FPS)

And now for RT... Cyberpunk 2077 RT Ultra in 4K (custom scene)

9070XT gets 28FPS (no upscaling!) and 9070 gets 21FPS (5080 scored 33 FPS, 5070TI scored 29FPS)

PATH TRACING in 4K the 9070XT got 10FPS and the 9070 got 8 FPS (5080 scored 15FPS and 5070Ti got 12FPS)

Here you go, some numbers from a review sample OCing takes it to 5080 levels, but you can also overclock the 5080, that's true

Overall, with final data I gathered... 9070XT is a replacement to the XTX in raster, much better RT, losing some VRAM, but it didn't matter in testing for now... You get FSR4 and RT is just leagues ahead, it's a tier ahead of the XTX.

Edit, They have also stated prices have been discussed with a retailer and going for $549/$649 as per my previous post on this.

So, like you say and we've been saying for two months now... A 4080 or 7900 XTX with better RT. I know it's just random internet rumors, but it tracks closely with 2-3 othere "leaks" on peformance. I'm relatively sold if they hit £700 actual honest for friggin God street price. If it's £800 street, take a walk.

I was set on a 5090, but with all that's happening on that side with supply, intentional shipping of defective chips, atrocious prices, fire hazards... I've got a real bad taste. First time in probably 25 years I won't be going creme-de-la-creme for a generation.

 

[uscool]

Nice but I thought it was for mainstream so £700 is okay now lol

 

[gpuerrilla]

It can't be priced over £600 then its a complete fail.


I know AMD are monitoring this thread so it will make all the difference...

 

[harmattan]

Nice but still mid range now we okay with £700+

I see your point. But if that's the real, actual retail price for a 9070 xt, it's still starting £300 lower for the same tier performance (with much better RT) than we got 2.5 years ago. £600 would be boss, but in this distopian world of flat (or degraded) price/performance improvements, £700 (again, actual retail price) is A-ok with me.

 

[Poneros]

MicroCenter lists Radeon RX 9070 series: RX 9070 XT starting at $699, RX 9070 at $649

 

[Joxeon]

I see your point. But if that's the real, actual retail price for a 9070 xt, it's still starting £300 lower for the same tier performance (with much better RT) than we got 2.5 years ago. £600 would be boss, but in this distopian world of flat (or degraded) price/performance improvements, £700 (again, actual retail price) is A-ok with me.

£300 lower than a card that was considered way overpriced 2 years ago and hasn’t really sold well at the £750-800 price that it’s been for the past year.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Yeah, going for marketshare my ass.

 

[Game]

can you take trump tax of that ?

 

[gpuerrilla]

It sounds really bad until you look at the retailer scalped prices of the 5070Ti for £900