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It sounds really bad until you look at the retailer scalped prices of the 5070Ti for £900
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Some more information from the same person I posted about before. This person claims to be in close contact with someone who has access to 9070 and 9070XT for reviews:
Cyberpunk 2077 (custom scene, 4K, no RT)
9070XT = 63FPS avg, 9070 = 52FPS avg (5070Ti scored 60FPS, 5080 scored 69FPS)
Alan Wake 2 (4K, no RT, custom scene)
9070XT = 59FPS, 9070 = 48FPS (5070Ti scored 55 FPS, 5080 scored 63FPS)
And now for RT... Cyberpunk 2077 RT Ultra in 4K (custom scene)
9070XT gets 28FPS (no upscaling!) and 9070 gets 21FPS (5080 scored 33 FPS, 5070TI scored 29FPS)
PATH TRACING in 4K the 9070XT got 10FPS and the 9070 got 8 FPS (5080 scored 15FPS and 5070Ti got 12FPS)
Here you go, some numbers from a review sampleOCing takes it to 5080 levels, but you can also overclock the 5080, that's true
Overall, with final data I gathered... 9070XT is a replacement to the XTX in raster, much better RT, losing some VRAM, but it didn't matter in testing for now... You get FSR4 and RT is just leagues ahead, it's a tier ahead of the XTX.
Edit, They have also stated prices have been discussed with a retailer and going for $549/$649 as per my previous post on this.
Cyberpunk no RT:
5080: 115%, £1200
9070 XT: 105% £650?
5070 Ti: 100% £800
Cyberpunk RT:
5080: 118% £1200
5070 Ti: 103% £800
9070 XT: 100% £650?
What do we think? I think that's good. Also, i think AMD's 3'rd gen RT has caught up with Nvidia's 4'th gen RT.
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Tricky to gauge anything from that. The price differences between the 9070 and 9070xt don't make sense for a start. There is no way there is only going to be a $50 price difference. Powercolor prices look like placeholders.
Looks all over the place to be honest.
Just remember the 5070ti is really a 5060ti so the 9070XT is a 60ti class competitor card.Yeah, going for marketshare my ass.
People need to take a step back and understand just how much Nvidia has manipulated the market to get to this point and then they’ll understand AMD is not their friend either.
Yes but sometimes you have to buy something or buy nothing, AMD still looking to offer the better deal
When you have a monopoly you set pricing.
If you can get a 9070XT on release for £650, yes. Looking at these preliminary/placeholder prices, the cheapest models are likely to go OOS pretty quickly and then you'll be left with the £7-800+ ones in stock.
Until NVidia gets its ass in gear and actually ship some chips, then AMD sat on $700 paper weights until AMDiscount kicks in. The reviews will compare msrp, and AMD will not get great reviews with cards at $700, $50 less than the 5070ti.
Those are AIB and retailers marking up things to high heaven.Yeah, going for marketshare my ass.
But the numbers are very suspect... The Powercolor Reaper vanilla and XT both costing $1100 makes no sense. Also suspect is the Reaper is Powercolors base, lower-cost model (and I can't see a 9070 xt costing more than $1100). Also, also, Asrock normally doesn't come in that low on price with any model.
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Think your 5070Ti price needs to be upjusted.
Not to mention the 1 cent difference between the powercolor reaper 9070 and 9070xt. Difficult sell on the 9070 that
These leaked prices seem pretty worthless.
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I did see that, i have to say i don't like the price of these higher end ones, having said that i think what AMD are doing here is setting a baseline and allowing AIB's to do what they want, like they used to, remember the HD 7970 Sapphire Toxic? this was a HD 7970 so overclocked out of the box it beat the GTX Titan, it also had double the VRam of the standard 7970, 6GB vs 3GB, so i think perhaps this is where the 32GB 9070 XT rumours may come from.
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It states placeholder?Yeah, going for marketshare my ass.
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This was identified heavily during Ada but the stampede since January onwards proves nobody took a step back as they learned nothing. I mean all of this fomo cant be new pc users/builders!
AMD has always had huge issues with shipping enough volume, still true even today for CPUs and you can make way more of those more easily & they have better profit margins. That's why I don't think they ever planned to price GPUs more aggressively - they can ship too few, so what's the point. Not sure why they can't do better but that's the case.
A better deal doesn’t win market share unfortunately. At this point it needs to be an amazing deal.
Let’s face it who all would be super hyped with £650 - 800 for a 9070XT.
I don’t think the 50 series is selling well, it just appears that way due to no stock.
If you could buy a £700 9070 xt tomorrow considering 5070 ti is £900, you wouldn't jump?
It is, rumours are there is no 5070 stock either....