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So now it’s a case of what the retail pricing is, this’ll be the thing that most likely stops me pulling the trigger, and how the 9070 XT performs compared to my 3070 TI.
 
Tinek said:
NVIDIA doesn't drop orices
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I’ve seen you post this a few times and you are wrong. Nvidia do drop or adjust prices as the market demands. They tend to release mid range refreshes as “super” models, and or enhance Ti models at the top end. What they do is adjust prices during these refreshes as the market warrants. Sometimes it up and sometimes it’s down.

They have also in the past had to adjust prices on the fly, it is just rare because normally AMD don’t make any release that force this. This is the first time in years that AMD have scored in the open goal and if Nvidia don’t respond, they WILL lose some market and more of ominously, mind share.

We have people declaring that Nvidia still have better RT, then they show CP2077 or Wukong to “prove this”. Yet last gen they had a ~40 lead in these titles. 5070Ti is 50% faster than a 7900 XTX in CP3077 ultra RT at 4K. The 5070Ti is looking like 20% faster than a 9070 XT in the same game. Yet this 20% is the difference between 25 vs 30 FPS.

AMD have caught up in upscaling and RT to the point the lead is much diminished. Enough that when you compare £600 vs £750 MSRP, that a 25% increase in cost over the AMD product make you pause for thought.

Could AMD have really gone for it, yes of course. But let’s not delude ourselves a $599 GPU competing with a $750 5070Ti is not going to cause some waves. This is not the “Nvidia minus $50 scenario we all expected.
 
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sx_turbo said:
Regarding the sapphire card with 16 pin connector,

Toms hardware has an interesting article on it, seems sapphire have installed some safe guards to stop the power cable and card from melting and ruining the card.

No doubt to get repaired it will have to be RMA'd but at least it won't be a fire hazard

www.tomshardware.com

Sapphire does the unthinkable and puts 16-pin power connector on an RX 9070 XT

It took an AMD AIB partner to make one of the most aesthetically pleasing implementations of the 16-pin connector.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
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still no thanks.
 
Would I need a new connector type moving from a 4series to this? Or is it the same "new" connecter that was added by nvidia last time round?
 
McPhee said:
Won't someone think of the poor 5070?

Nvidia may as well cancel that card (in its current form) at this point :cry:
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This is a good point. If the 9070XT renders the 9070 pointless, it renders the 5070 12GB even more pointless. $50 more gets you a lot more performance for your money.
 
platypus said:
Would I need a new connector type moving from a 4series to this? Or is it the same "new" connecter that was added by nvidia last time round?
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Depends on the GPU you buy.

If you buy the sapphire nitro + or the asrock taichi they use the same connector as the 40 & 50 series
 
RavenXXX2 said:
If you want the NVidia software stack that's way superior to AMDs then 5070 is in play and will outsell both 9070s simply because NVidia.
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sx_turbo said:
What's the software stack?
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He probably means DLSS4/MFG. The reality is that AMD has caught up.

FSR4 will almost certainly give DLSS4 a run for it's money. AMD say it's using a custom model that is a combination of CNN and Transformer model. Chances are it will be more performant than DLSS4 for that reason and visually it looks great even in performance mode.
The video encoding is probably going to be on par with whatever Nvidia offers and as for MFG, I doubt if most people will care about 2 extra fake frames since it's useless for those who don't have a 240Hz+ monitor.
 
fs123 said:
He probably means DLSS4/MFG. The reality is that AMD has caught up.

FSR4 will almost certainly give DLSS4 a run for it's money. AMD say it's using a custom model that is a combination of CNN and Transformer model. Chances are it will be more performant than DLSS4 for that reason and visually it looks great even in performance mode.
The video encoding is probably going to be on par with whatever Nvidia offers and as for MFG, I doubt if most people will care about 2 extra fake frames since it's useless for those who don't have a 240Hz+ monitor.
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Not sure about "caught up" yet but definitely catching up. We will need to see some individual, real world tests and reviews to see if they have actually caught up.

I want to see Intel doing it too, we need as much competition as we can get.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
If you want the NVidia software stack that's way superior to AMDs then 5070 is in play and will outsell both 9070s simply because NVidia.
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I see you started again are you serious or just wanting attention I can't tell

Let's go by MSRP 5070 £539 with it's 12gb and it's probably giving 4070 super performance? I would definitely pay extra for the 9070xt
 
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Looking at the AIBs 9070XTs which in the opinion of this discerning forum is the best looking one? Interested in an all metal construction as I like the way AMD (mba) makes them out of metal esp for the shroud and backplate- esp now there is no mba for 9070 series.
 
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