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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

I read somewhere that the Astral's fan on the back is mostly what causes excessive noise. Maybe that fan could be dialed down with software.

The Asus 4090 Strix were also known to have pretty bad coil whine. I wonder if Asus has fixed it for this gen.
It's pretty bad yeah, but super easy to fix with the new bios or just a custom fan curve.
 
This is why I gave up and paid £2400 for a bloody Palit when I got the chance. The 6AM notifications were the absolute worst. It's felt so liberating today not to have to keep jumping at my phone.
This 100% lol, I've had my Astral for a few weeks now and feels like a huge weight has lifted off my shoulders aha, the things fomo can do to someone
 
I wouldnt say that the fomo is bothering me. Ita more that my moneys been gone for a month and a half with nothing to show for it. Ive always hated preorders in full. Same with gig tickets that aint happening for months too.
 
I wouldnt say that the fomo is bothering me. Ita more that my moneys been gone for a month and a half with nothing to show for it. Ive always hated preorders in full. Same with gig tickets that aint happening for months too.
Insult to injury, someone is sitting on your money earning interest.

I'm ready to jump on the first card that comes in at £2400 or less, but those have been virtually illusory. My new 9070xt is serving me very well at present, but I'm positively repelled by the thought of buying another PC component for a while... I'd never buy one again, if I had the choice, after these abhorrant launches. This used to be fun, and I happily forked over money in the regular upgrade process. Now, I'm buying a 5090 so I don't need to deal with the absolute tripe and codswallop as much as for the performance.
 
Insult to injury, someone is sitting on your money earning interest.

This has come up a few times and tbh I don’t really get how anyone can find it annoying.

I can join the queue and pay the price, or not. It’s entirely my choice. Ditto, if you’re in a queue, you can also leave at any time.

If anyone wants to hold onto cash in your savings account for whatever reason, then just wait.

There’s a winning choice for everyone :p

Why did you buy a 9070xt if you’re waiting for a 5090?
 
This has come up a few times and tbh I don’t really get how anyone can find it annoying.

I can join the queue and pay the price, or not. It’s entirely my choice. Ditto, if you’re in a queue, you can also leave at any time.

If anyone wants to hold onto cash in your savings account for whatever reason, then just wait.

There’s a winning choice for everyone :p

Why did you buy a 9070xt if you’re waiting for a 5090?
Agreed, there's a choice, sure. But for most large-ticket preorders e.g. cars, boats etc -- and especially for those that will surely be sold otherwise -- you put a fractional deposit down to reserve the item. In the case of card and component preorders, you're paying the full price upfront. This is your money which is frozen (and being used away from youj) until you literally have the item in hand.

I bought a 9070xt because, like many people here searching for a new card, I was using an older, long-in-the-tooth card and wanted something in the interim. Getting a 9070xt at launch (instead of buying a decent used card, which is what I normally would do in this situation) was ridiculously the cheapest option for price/performance. As mentioned, it's a great card (superb at the price/performance in this market), but I know if I hold on to it in lieu of just buying a 5090, I'll just be back at the trough in a few months looking for more performance.
 
This has come up a few times and tbh I don’t really get how anyone can find it annoying.

I can join the queue and pay the price, or not. It’s entirely my choice. Ditto, if you’re in a queue, you can also leave at any time.

If anyone wants to hold onto cash in your savings account for whatever reason, then just wait.

There’s a winning choice for everyone :p

Why did you buy a 9070xt if you’re waiting for a 5090?

Further, this supposed "earning interest" is not realistic: maybe, £5 per month...
 
This has come up a few times and tbh I don’t really get how anyone can find it annoying.

I can join the queue and pay the price, or not. It’s entirely my choice. Ditto, if you’re in a queue, you can also leave at any time.

If anyone wants to hold onto cash in your savings account for whatever reason, then just wait.

There’s a winning choice for everyone :p

Why did you buy a 9070xt if you’re waiting for a 5090?
Found 'Martyns money tips helpful', interest free Credit Card was helpful for sure for pre orders. Just wondering if the companies need to pay anything up front themselves for these particular pre orders? Seems unlikely with such big accounts?
 
Someone moved 4 spots in the queue place for the Astral, meanwhile Ocuk had 60 of them in yesterday.
My suspicion is that what's happened here is that OCUK ended up paying significantly more per card than the queue place took per card in its pre-orders.

When the queue place opened up its queue, people spotted the following day that it had reserved for itself the right to increase the price of pre-orders and give people the choice between paying more and losing their queue position. There was a fair old outcry over this and also some questions over its legality in the case of early pre-orders from before the T&Cs were updated. In the face of this, the queues place has clearly taken a decision not to increase prices - nobody has thus far reported being asked to pay more for their pre-order.

But this leaves the queue place in the invidious position where it can't actually order (m)any cards without making a loss on them. And no, the interest on deposits wouldn't even close to covering the losses it would have to make - people dramatically overestimate how much interest it'll be earning (at absolute most, around £10 per pre-order so far).
 
It's pretty bad yeah, but super easy to fix with the new bios or just a custom fan curve.

'Fixing' it does mean lowering some of the other fans on the card though, not just the rear fan, which will impact thermals/performance a tiny amount. At least according to Debaurer's video, where the rear and middle are linked in GPUTweak software.

I don't think that's good enough for a card costing £1000-1500 more than the mostly identical performance of the MSRP cards myself.

ASUS did such a good job with the 4090 Strix, but let themselves down with the Astral.

I still think the Astral looks the best card visually, for a display case type system.
 
'Fixing' it does mean lowering some of the other fans on the card though, not just the rear fan, which will impact thermals/performance a tiny amount. At least according to Debaurer's video, where the rear and middle are linked in GPUTweak software.

I don't think that's good enough for a card costing £1000-1500 more than the mostly identical performance of the MSRP cards myself.

ASUS did such a good job with the 4090 Strix, but let themselves down with the Astral.

I still think the Astral looks the best card visually, for a display case type system.
Astral and Aorus Master for looks closely followed by the Suprim imo.
 
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