Price is tricky yeah but the pulse is £640 so £100 more and in the grand scheme of things it is the better card. Still over priced though I agree. But if you had to choose between the two, I know which I'd pick and it isn't a 12gb card.
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5070 vs 9070XT
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Well if you believe all the reviews that slate the 5070 yes, but with DLSS 4 and multi frame gen and more power efficient than a 9070 XT maybe not. Also I can’t see any in stock 9070 XT for less than £700 odd.
5070 has a bad reputation because Jensen made those false claims about being as fast as the 4090. I don’t mind if it is worse than the 5070 XT as it’s only for my second machine so is a non issue for me.
5070 got bad reputation is because it's still 12gb at that price range, and traditionally new 70 tier would at least match the previous 80 tier now it's 4070 super from previous generation that's pathetic
I rather just wait for drop of 9070xt for £649.99 before buying the 5070
As someone who has access to both FSR4 and DLSS4 I can reasonably argue that FSR4 is actually better at performance. On my 4080 going to performance DLSS4 transformer model is noticeably blurry compared to FSR4 performance mode.
FSR4 and DLSS4 are so close they trade blows with DLSS4 getting a minor points victory. Even tech tubers have stated sometimes FSR4 looks better. So all this talk of DLSS4 still being better is technically accurate, but the difference is so negligible that the “win” is purely academic.
Even the lack of support is academic because Optiscaler renders that point almost moot.
The 5070 is a decent 1440p card at MSRP. The only caveat is that only works because RDNA4 cards are over MSRP.
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Yep. I've been enjoying the 9070XT Nitro+ after upgrading from the 3080FE. Everything runs good at 1440P and FSR4 is great. I've added Optiscaler to most of the games that don't have native FSR4 support and it looks near enough DLSS4 quality even in Performance mode. GTA5 Enhanced gets around 145fps average with all the settings maxed with Ultra RT and FSR4 Quality (Optiscaler). Cyberpunk PT and everything Ultra is getting around 75fps with FSR4 Performance mode (Optiscaler) and over 110fps with FG.
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No it has a bad reputation because its slow and overpriced while lacking vram. No amount off spinning will change this. Bottom line for the price it's outmatched.
Indeed. The 5070 is a really rubbish choice at its price point.
Which ones do you need FSR4 for?
I don't need any as I don't have AMD card yet, but it's still relevant for others to know that will flag up as anti cheat
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It's a valid concern, but only if there are actually situations where this actually exists. I can't think of any! CSGO2, Rainbow Six, Valorant, Fortnite? None of these need upscaling. Marvel Rivals has FSR4. Are there any known cases of Optiscaler triggering anti-cheat?
Not that I know of but says
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At some point it might be needed to increase FPS , my own screen is 240 1440p hopefully it gets added natively into more games
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At it's RRP even the RX9070 non XT is arguably better than an RTX5070, is usually more efficient and has 33% more VRAM. The RX9070XT at RRP because it costs more is only 10% better price/performance but requires a much bigger PSU. Also because AMD has clearly capped clockspeeds artificially the cards actually overclock more as a percentage than an RX9070XT.
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I thought AMD should have made an entry level $550 base spec 9070XT at 250w with a BIOS capped at 275w. Use cheaper twin fan style coolers and the BIOS capped so they can’t be overclocked beyond 5% - 7% over stock performance (or a few percent slower than the current base XT). This would still be ~8% faster than a 9070 and more importantly ~15% faster than a 5070 for the same price.
They could have used the same cheaper coolers as on the 9070 base spec and charged $50 less and still not lost any performance. Those super massive coolers are overkill on a 220w GPU IMHO.
The current OC 304w - 330w 9070 XT models with the more expensive 3 fan coolers could have been sold as the $600 - $700 versions we already have. Though the higher end models would be the better binned chips with higher OC potential. The USP would be they can overclock to about 5070Ti performance and are ~5% - 8% faster than the base XT entry models. Cooler, quieter and better OC for the “enthusiasts” who love that stuff.
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Friend of mine is currently debating between these two and my initial reaction was to go with the 9070 XT - but it does seem a lot more complicated now pricing has seemingly gone both ways. The 5070 can be had for less than 500 quid now - and the cheapest 9070XT is 650.
It's also an odd comparison (surely 9070 vs 5070 and XT vs. Ti) to some degree - but looking online it seems this is a relatively regular debate!
He's playing at 1440p 180hz - and I'm sort of leaning towards thinking at under 500 quid the 5070 looks to be a decent card. The price that makes it a good option, even with 12GB, and he can put the extra 150 towards something else in his build (i.e. 7800X3D vs. a 7700X or 9700X).
It's also an odd comparison (surely 9070 vs 5070 and XT vs. Ti) to some degree - but looking online it seems this is a relatively regular debate!
He's playing at 1440p 180hz - and I'm sort of leaning towards thinking at under 500 quid the 5070 looks to be a decent card. The price that makes it a good option, even with 12GB, and he can put the extra 150 towards something else in his build (i.e. 7800X3D vs. a 7700X or 9700X).
The 5070 has a bad reputation because its bad.
Very happy with my launch day 9070 but, on the outside, the 5070 price is more appealing now.
That said I still don't think I'd go for one. Besides vram, Nvidia just have gone flakey and unreliable as a company in my eyes be it due to missing rops, melting connectors, stability problems or driver issues.
Not that I'm getting rid of my GTX1080 in my second pc but I won't be rushing out to buy a new Nvidia card until they price more reliable, in my mind, and give good value.
That said I still don't think I'd go for one. Besides vram, Nvidia just have gone flakey and unreliable as a company in my eyes be it due to missing rops, melting connectors, stability problems or driver issues.
Not that I'm getting rid of my GTX1080 in my second pc but I won't be rushing out to buy a new Nvidia card until they price more reliable, in my mind, and give good value.
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I mean that's how I set my reaper, I have found -40Mv is stable in all games, I run it at -15% power (260W) and it plugs along happily. I got it at launch MSRP.