EV general discussion

inflames said:
Just wondering how many people on here have purchased there EV as a used car? Or are most leasing, PCP or work EV scheme?
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PCH'd from new and bought it out from the leasing company at the end of the lease at auction pricing. Very cheap ownership vs ICE, ~£600 charging costs in the space of around 5 years, vs ~£5.5k in petrol, so TCO is about £6.5-7k depending residual value of car right.

If you are looking used there are lots of great bargains, and depending on the model do not let a car with higher mileage put you off. I know someone that just had a 21-plate Ioniq 5 73kWh with 70k miles on it and no noticeable degradation to the battery, and its still under Hyundai warranty.

What were you looking at?
 
Nice to see a car dealer taking a new approach to charging/selling BEV's


A bit of fluff in the video but also plenty of good info.
 
hadn't realised even evtheist Harry liked R5 - handling/economy/weight .... only b-mol I've seen elsewhere was turning off juddery auto-hold for parallel parking.
? the LSD in the shared chassis alfa-velocee really helps with refinement.
 
jpaul said:
hadn't realised even evtheist Harry liked R5 - handling/economy/weight .... only b-mol I've seen elsewhere was turning off juddery auto-hold for parallel parking.
? the LSD in the shared chassis alfa-velocee really helps with refinement.
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Am I mad for considering an MG4 Xpower in the not too distant future...?

The acceleration sounds like it would be hilarious fun at sub 4 secs to 60, but I do worry about the weak handling that is mentioned in a lot of reviews.

Also the vibration issues are worrying but that seems to have been sorted in 24 models onwards.

Not sure what alternatives there are in terms of reasonably priced EV hot hatches though.

I'd go for a petrol hot hatch like a Leon Cupra 290, but they all seem silly expensive for the age/mileage and lack of warranty etc.
 
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So near enough 2 months since moving to an EV. Really enjoying ownership. Had to use public charging a few times now, no major issues but definitely a mixture in charging speeds. Car has always been preconditioned before arriving but some fast chargers haven't even broke 200kW.

Few teething issues with the car that I need to get fixed though as it has the common boot rattle, but it looks like there are various TSBs that cover the fix now. So far I'm not regretting the decision :D
 
Jono8 said:
Not sure what alternatives there are in terms of reasonably priced EV hot hatches though.

I'd go for a petrol hot hatch like a Leon Cupra 290, but they all seem silly expensive for the age/mileage and lack of warranty etc.
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Leon Cupra 290 according to Google goes at 0 to 60 in 5.5 secs, my mate timed my normal MG4 Trophy at 6 seconds.
It says 7.7 seconds on Google but we did two runs (his watch could be wrong before JohnnyCoupe flies in).
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Leon Cupra 290 according to Google goes at 0 to 60 in 5.5 secs, my mate timed my normal MG4 Trophy at 6 seconds.
It says 7.7 seconds on Google but we did two runs (his watch could be wrong before JohnnyCoupe flies in).
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How are you finding the MG4? Which size motor do you have?
 
Jono8 said:
Am I mad for considering an MG4 Xpower in the not too distant future...?

The acceleration sounds like it would be hilarious fun at sub 4 secs to 60, but I do worry about the weak handling that is mentioned in a lot of reviews.

Also the vibration issues are worrying but that seems to have been sorted in 24 models onwards.

Not sure what alternatives there are in terms of reasonably priced EV hot hatches though.

I'd go for a petrol hot hatch like a Leon Cupra 290, but they all seem silly expensive for the age/mileage and lack of warranty etc.
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I have a regular 200ish bhp Trophy and have driven (briefly) an xpower, in all honesty I wouldn't bother with it. There is little extra enjoyment to be had with the silly power as you already have instant throttle response on the normal car, they're not (no EV I've driven really is though never been near an ioniq N) particularly fun to drive and the xpower seems to ruin the relative balance that the rwd car has

I quite like my MG4, but what I particularly like about it are the things that you'll get in most EV's i.e it's relatively well specced, superb for driving in heavy traffic with minimal user input, reasonably refined for a small cheap car and an acceptable interior considering same.They're dirt cheap now so would consider either a trophy or potentially the extended range at the right price - that price has to be significantly lower than the equivalent Cupra Born or Mégane for example.
 
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rodenal said:
I have a regular 200ish bhp Trophy and have driven (briefly) an xpower, in all honesty I wouldn't bother with it. There is little extra enjoyment to be had with the silly power as you already have instant throttle response on the normal car, they're not (no EV I've driven really is though never been near an ioniq N) particularly fun to drive and the xpower seems to ruin the relative balance that the rwd car has

I quite like my MG4, but what I particularly like about it are the things that you'll get in most EV's i.e it's relatively well specced, superb for driving in heavy traffic with minimal user input, reasonably refined for a small cheap car and an acceptable interior considering same.They're dirt cheap now so would consider either a trophy or potentially the extended range at the right price - that price has to be significantly lower than the equivalent Cupra Born or Mégane for example.
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Would you say the Mégane is worth looking at? Quite like the look of it.

Personally not a fan of the MG4 styling that much, but it's not so bad to discount it.
 
They drive nicely and integrated Google is a bonus too. Boot is a bit of an odd shape as it's pretty tall but narrow (if it matters to you) and I'd say they drive well but absolutely not comparable to a hot hatch
 
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Journey said:
That and the Scenic are both good? Are you buying new, or leasing?
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Probably a used few years old car.

The EV6 looks like a potential contender too (though more expensive than MG4s or Megan's). Seems to have good reviews for it's drivability/possible to have fun on b roads.
 
The EV6 and or Ioniq 5 are bigger and (imo) nicer cars than the others you have mentioned so far. Again neither are spectacular to drive but totally competent.
 
Jono8 said:
Probably a used few years old car.

The EV6 looks like a potential contender too (though more expensive than MG4s or Megan's). Seems to have good reviews for it's drivability/possible to have fun on b roads.
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EV6 is very nice, you will pay a little more, as you get the 7 year warranty which is a big bonus, so even on a 2022 car you are covered until 2029.
 
Journey said:
EV6 is very nice, you will pay a little more, as you get the 7 year warranty which is a big bonus, so even on a 2022 car you are covered until 2029.
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Yeh that's what is tempting. Would still have 4 years warranty left even on a 2022 one, which seems to be in the low 20ks for the slowest motor version. I don't want to be spending that amount of money only to worry about big repair bills in a years time etc.

A nice car for the money. More than I was aiming to spend (wanted to keep it under £20k) but might be worth it in the long run.

Probably not going to get anything for a good few months yet, but just starting to get a feeling for what is out there and what the best option would be and I think an EV might be the way to go. I rarely do long trips and my work commute is a 25 mile round trip so can't see any range issues.
 
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The best thing you can possibly do is go and drive a few then make your mind up from there. The kind of money you're looking at seems sensible to me but be very wary of spending too much of your own cash in a lump sum (i.e outside of a lease/PCP where you have a relatively fixed value point) on an EV as the tech and values of the cars themselves can move very quickly.
 
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