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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

Mercurial said:
I mentioned this in the owners thread, but watching a few comparison videos over the last few weeks, the frametime blips on Nv cards are much more pronounced than on AMD equivalents, even if fps highs and lows are superior. You may be onto something there with the driver overhead angle.
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I do wonder about this. It could just be a game issue, but despite much higher framerates on my 5080 Vs the previous 6800 XT I had, frametimes just aren't consistent on this card compared to the AMD one. This is in Darktide.

At 1440p UW I had to drop settings and enable FG to get a decent experience on the 6800 XT (and it was smooth), but the 5080 keeps getting spikes that translate to an inconsistent experience, regardless of whether FG is on or not. This is particularly annoying in my case as I'm using an OLED monitor with freesync, and get VRR flicker as a result (this with a 9800X3D Vs the 5800X3D I had paired with the 6800 XT).
 
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I haven't a clue why it should be the case, it also doesn't seem to be a thing often commented on. A previous responder mentioned that it may be SAM on the AMD card kicking in wheras on a Nv its much less likely to have been enabled in the drivers.

It may even just be the way Nv cards operate, I've access to a 3060ti in another machine I may take look and see if that exhibits the same behaviour.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Is it me or has the hype died down now? Even my FOMO has evaporated.

Would only get a msrp model now and I suspect there will be a few in a month. Even then I would be hard pushed to say I need a card to play games as that happens anyway at high settings on my current card.

I don’t use even FSR 3.1 in any games and push decent fps. Also why don’t people use AFMF to double their frame rates rather than using FSR? Surely that would prolong the life of most cards negating the need to upgrade till ages later?

I’ve used AFMF in Spider-Man remastered to push 150-180fps at Max Settings at 1440p and I don’t see any image or input deterioration- it looks sweet to my eyes.
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we will see today if the rumoured large sapphire drop hits how long they stay for sale
 
GhostDog1981 said:
I guess the hype depends on how low down the stack you are upgrading from. The excitement reduces if you’re coming from a recent gen card.
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A lost of people were like me on old 10 series cards and this was the first reasonably priced card in 3 generations so it really scratched the itch.

I do thinks it's paying off for AMD they I'll have a lot of people go Red and as long as it performs well for them that's all they need. If it just works and plays games as advertised then AMD are on for a winner.
 
kieran_read said:
A lost of people were like me on old 10 series cards and this was the first reasonably priced card in 3 generations so it really scratched the itch.

I do thinks it's paying off for AMD they I'll have a lot of people go Red and as long as it performs well for them that's all they need. If it just works and plays games as advertised then AMD are on for a winner.
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Yep, there are now thousands more gamers with AMD cards who will probably be less afraid to buy another Radeon in the future, which is great for competition.
 
Bidley said:
Yep, there are now thousands more gamers with AMD cards who will probably be less afraid to buy another Radeon in the future, which is great for competition.
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Exactly, personal experience of the brand often denigrated as "not NVidia" is often more persuasive than any advertising / review / recommendation. AMD's mind-share may improve a bit overall.
 
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Grim5 said:
Lisa Su officially confirms what all the rumours have been saying: that RX9000 is the most successful GPU launch ever for AMD and they're currently 10 times more GPUs now than last gen

Lisa Su also announced that new RX9000 models are on way

https://www.techspot.com/news/107280-lisa-su-calls-radeon-rx-9000-amd-most.html
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It has clearly been a good launch for AMD but the figures are surely skewed by that fact that AMD delayed the release by around 6 weeks. It's probably rare to have so much stock ready on day 1.
 
BS Dave said:
see there are still some available even an hour after the drop. I think we might see some deals in a few weeks, hopefully AMD will bring the pain and add a free game....
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With the current prices though, which are typically 14% higher than MSRP prices, I'd guess that might play a small part in that. Maybe we'll see them start to head back towards MSRP, but it seems a bit early for AMD to do too much I'd say. Especially given the alternative (which in fairness do seem to be heading towards MSRP too) is still more expensive and not yet flooded with stock.

Owenb said:
It has clearly been a good launch for AMD but the figures are surely skewed by that fact that AMD delayed the release by around 6 weeks. It's probably rare to have so much stock ready on day 1.
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Yeah, the added time to stockpile must have helped although it seems even then they didn't have nearly enough, which seems like it came as quite a shock to AMD. I think the most annoying part was that it wasn't planned too much in advance and customer knew the cards were at the retailers but we had to wait. If they could've done it in secret it might have helped that. Although if people didn't know AMD's cards were basically ready there might be panic about why they were so far behind Nvidia's release date.
 
Owenb said:
It has clearly been a good launch for AMD but the figures are surely skewed by that fact that AMD delayed the release by around 6 weeks. It's probably rare to have so much stock ready on day 1.
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They're not skewed. Nvidia could've done exactly the same, or at least just bothered to make more chips.
 
pete910 said:
Nvidia has been known to artificiality restrict stock to keep prices up so there not likely to do that.
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Oh it's definitely deliberate, either to inflate prices or to divert resources to the datacentre cards. It hasn't done them many favours in the short term though, like it usually does.
 
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Copesman said:
I suspect there is something to that the 5xxx seems to have suddenly started to appear.
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They might not be appearing in any more numbers, it's just that people aren't buying them as much.
Which is probably a combination of the small generational uplift, the numerous issues that have come to light and an attractive alternative from AMD.
 
Bidley said:
They're not skewed. Nvidia could've done exactly the same, or at least just bothered to make more chips.
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It has nothing to do with Nvidia. All I am saying is that holding back the release for 6 weeks has clearly helped them to achieve record numbers in the first month. Of course having a good product that addresses nearly all of RDNA3 weakness has helped!
 
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