Watercool Mora IV announced

Haven’t been on the forums for a while, lovely bit of kit this!

Nice to have everything in one place, screen wouldn’t be for me though, I bought a mora to hide the watercooling.
 
Mysterae_ said:
That sure looks the business and it was certainly due a refresh but I wonder how popular it'll be with that price tag!

I think I'll stick my current MO-RA3 with a Utilitube D5 Next strapped to the side of it for quite a while yet.

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What are you using to power that and control the fans?
 
Distracted said:
What are you using to power that and control the fans?
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To provide power I used a generic 12Vdc 2A power supply which is attached to the MoRa using magnetic tape.

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The Aqua Computer D5 Next controls the pump and PWM fans autonomously, the USB cable back to the PC is for monitoring data only (AIDA64).
 
I just brought the IV 200, hope its going to be worth it, cost a small fortune, the only part I already have is a D5 vario pump that I can use lol, brought some parts from OCuk (fans, QD3's 2 x female and 2 x male and some tubing), then brought the 70w PSU off the rainforest and an adapter cable to convert the molex from the PSU into 1 x molex and 2 x fans, the nthe radiator, feet, D5 200 Res, and cover from watercool de, just short of £600 all in, ive got some modding of my case to do when it all arrives as I have a Lian Li A3 at the moment with just an EK 360mm Rad in it which will be coming out, but need to make some holes to get the tubing outside, I may just go though the top of the fan grill in the back of the case, or take the badge off the back of the case and drill a couple of holes.
 
Ouch that's painful
I would probably take the badge off
And go through there
Whats the point of a badge on the rear anyway?
Then get the step drill bit out
Couple of holes and some circular grommets
So tubing isn't rubbing on metal
And away we go
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Ouch that's painful
I would probably take the badge off
And go through there
Whats the point of a badge on the rear anyway?
Then get the step drill bit out
Couple of holes and some circular grommets
So tubing isn't rubbing on metal
And away we go
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Exactly what I was thinking of doing. :D
 
I've bought mora iv 600 and flushed it with distilled water although I'm not certain that it is necessary to do so. Bought 1 heatkiller pump because I have an ek dual pump in the pc already. I'm going to keep my components already in my case in situ and therefore will have two reservoirs and just read an interesting post on reddit on the intricacies of filling with two reservoirs. It seems its fine as long as you don't open both res at once.

I bought 3 barrow quick disconnects to be able to run the pc without the external rad but realised I could just plug male to female to connect the pc alone. Then open that connection and have male to female on output of pc and female to male on input to pc.

Still waiting on a 9070xt block before I finalise the build.
 
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Have used 2 reservoirs before
Assuming they won't be at identical height
I used the higher up one to fill
All ports on lower one sealed
Once it was just about filled up the level
In the lower one was pretty low
This will depend exactly how your loop is set up though
I thought mavity would just fill the lower one
Turned out it didn't
Very carefully cracked open a top port on lower res
Allowed air out
That air was probably why mavity didn't fill it
Let it fill to few inches from the top
Once pumps are turned off/pc is off some coolant returned
To the lower res which is why didn't fill it too far
In one go
I guess with less air /air pressure in lower one
mavity was able to return some coolant

And ball valves probably a lot cheaper way
Of connecting external radiator
compared to quick disconnects
 
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I assume all pumps are off when you're filling the higher res (tank 275)? I think the best idea is to elevate the pc on a desk so pc res is higher to fill the system, other wise I would be filling the tank 275 and switching on the pc pump.

I will fill the pc first and then switch the quick disconnects to route through the mo-ra the prime the system via the pc res. I could prime via the mo-ra but that means keeping a 2nd PSU laying about... or does it? Maybe I could just hook up the main mo-ra iv cable with nothing else powered on the PC.
 
megatron said:
I assume all pumps are off when you're filling the higher res (tank 275)? I think the best idea is to elevate the pc on a desk so pc res is higher to fill the system, other wise I would be filling the tank 275 and switching on the pc pump.

I will fill the pc first and then switch the quick disconnects to route through the mo-ra the prime the system via the pc res. I could prime via the mo-ra but that means keeping a 2nd PSU laying about... or does it? Maybe I could just hook up the main mo-ra iv cable with nothing else powered on the PC.
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I have a similar set up. My plan is to add qd's between the pc and Mo-ra, m>f on inlet f>m on outlet. That way i can disconnect the loop and reconnect to make 2 separate loops Mora + pc. I will fill both separately, using the mo-ra main cable. Then disconnect the 2 loops and reconnect back into 1 large. Final bleeding whichever res is highest, although with my setup i suspect the lower res will end up with an air pocket, ready for a finishing top up.
 
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Should say
I was using 2 x pump res combos
Both inside the pc

After pouring in enough coolant to top res
so top res pump
Wouldn't be running dry
Did the usual power On then stop power
As res was getting low and add coolant
Turn power on etc
Need to use at least 1 pump on
Or coolant won't go to rads/blocks etc
That are above the top res

Don't see why you would need 2 x psu
Just bridge pins on psu inside
The pc
Use a sata/molex extension cable
To the pump on external radiator
Either fill pc and external radiator separately
Or both at same time
Which ever works best for you
Once I had done it a few times I knew what worked best
For my particular loop
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Don't see why you would need 2 x psu
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Because my pc is in another room to where the mora will be, so difficult to flick the switch on/off. With the 3 meter length though I think I could shift the mora into a better viewing position. I have a little hole next to a door where my cables are getting mains power from. In previous iterations my whole PC has been in the other room with 2m usb cables for keyboard/mouse.

I guess with quick disconnects the mo-ra could be next to me to prime the system.
 
megatron said:
Because my pc is in another room to where the mora will be, so difficult to flick the switch on/off. With the 3 meter length though I think I could shift the mora into a better viewing position. I have a little hole next to a door where my cables are getting mains power from. In previous iterations my whole PC has been in the other room with 2m usb cables for keyboard/mouse.

I guess with quick disconnects the mo-ra could be next to me to prime the system.
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Nice with the mora in another room
You're not dumping the heat
Into the room you're sitting at the pc in
Wish I could do that
In the summer my pc room gets extremely hot
Ironic really since I moved south to escape Scottish winters
Now i get too hot lol

For filling everything up
I would rather have everything together
Just so can keep an eye out for leaks just in case
Without having to go back and forth
Between rooms
 
Ive got to ask you guys, is one D5 enough to run the loop ? currently im using a DDC 4.2 pump on a stealkey FLT80 type pump res combo, but I was going to remove this and mod the pump /res combo to cover where the pump goes with a piece of Perspex so I could just use it as a separate res inside the PC, really just for topping up coolant over the coming days if it starts to run a little low whilst all the air is escaping etc, the only things im cooling is my delidded CPU and RAM.

My Mo-ra kit should be arriving Tuesday coming, they seem to be a little slow with despatch, but ive got the IV 200, Grill, Feet and Tank 200 D5 coming, I wasnt sure if I should keep the DDC pump in the case and leave it running to help the coolant along, or switch it off and just leave it there incase anything goes wrong with the D5, or just remove it completely ?

Ive got 2 QD3's both male and female, but not so I can run the loop without the Mo-Ra connected, but so I can disconnect it and take my PC away to work on it....upgrades etc, without taking the Mo-Ra with me, there wont be any radiators inside the PC, the Mo-Ra is going to be the only radiator

I wont be able to do the full change until next weekend, but I will build the Mo-Ra on tuesday when it arrives and fill it and leak test it for a couple of days before I can complete the mod to my case etc and change things around.
 
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I think one pump would be enough

But would i remove the ddc
No i wouldn't
While pumps are pretty reliable
Doesn't mean they can't fail
Having that second pump in there gives you redundancy
Mine wasn't an external radiator
But full loop cpu,gpu with block and active backplate
Lot of 90 degree fittings and quick disconnects too
1 pump ran it fine I disconnected them both individually
To see what happened if one failed

Having second pump as backup means no downtime
If a pump should fail
Letting you delay sorting it until it's convenient
 
Jamin280672 said:
Ive got to ask you guys, is one D5 enough to run the loop ? currently im using a DDC 4.2 pump on a stealkey FLT80 type pump res combo, but I was going to remove this and mod the pump /res combo to cover where the pump goes with a piece of Perspex so I could just use it as a separate res inside the PC, really just for topping up coolant over the coming days if it starts to run a little low whilst all the air is escaping etc, the only things im cooling is my delidded CPU and RAM.

My Mo-ra kit should be arriving Tuesday coming, they seem to be a little slow with despatch, but ive got the IV 200, Grill, Feet and Tank 200 D5 coming, I wasnt sure if I should keep the DDC pump in the case and leave it running to help the coolant along, or switch it off and just leave it there incase anything goes wrong with the D5, or just remove it completely ?

Ive got 2 QD3's both male and female, but not so I can run the loop without the Mo-Ra connected, but so I can disconnect it and take my PC away to work on it....upgrades etc, without taking the Mo-Ra with me, there wont be any radiators inside the PC, the Mo-Ra is going to be the only radiator

I wont be able to do the full change until next weekend, but I will build the Mo-Ra on tuesday when it arrives and fill it and leak test it for a couple of days before I can complete the mod to my case etc and change things around.
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I'd use both pumps, I've seen set ups where people use two different pumps in different places and they work fine.

Here's my reasoning, I'm running a mo-ra 420 off a single D5 in the case. I did this for ease of use, everything is in the pc and the only things running to the mo-ra are the tubes and two daisy chained fan cables. PC and mo-ra are both under the desk at either side about 4 foot apart. I used quick disconnects just to make moving it easier but I filled it as a complete setup. Using one D5 it was a bit of a slog to get 2.25 litres of coolant in but it was doable. I used CPC NS6 qdcs with barbs and they're solid with epdm pushed on.

I layed it all out to be as unrestrictive as possible, even cut a hole in the case so I could move the res so that I could use fewer angle fittings.
Parts list - Alphacool core cpu and gpu blocks, heatkiller res and d5, heatkiller pci passthrough, high flow next, cpc ns6 qdcs, about 4m of epdm tubing and there are two 45 and one 90 degree fittings in the whole loop.

I get 120lph flow with the D5 at 85% and the water up to temp which is a reasonable place to be. This gets me an ambient to water temp delta of about 10c at 500w of load with fans at 450rpm. At 100% pump speed I get 150lph which drops the temps a couple of degrees but the pump becomes audible. At less than 70% pump speed it's trickle city. If I ever redo the loop I'll use an EK or heatkiller dual D5 housing in the case.

Pics are at the bottom of on page 173 of the gallery up there ^

Watercooled Case Gallery

Always had the same issue with phone cameras as well hence why i don't use it anymore. Doesn't depict reality at all, especially when phones these days use image smoothing and other tricks but in actuality i think it makes the image look worse. DSLR and a tripod with the correct settings...
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newuser said:
I'd use both pumps, I've seen set ups where people use two different pumps in different places and they work fine.

Here's my reasoning, I'm running a mo-ra 420 off a single D5 in the case. I did this for ease of use, everything is in the pc and the only things running to the mo-ra are the tubes and two daisy chained fan cables. PC and mo-ra are both under the desk at either side about 4 foot apart. I used quick disconnects just to make moving it easier but I filled it as a complete setup. Using one D5 it was a bit of a slog to get 2.25 litres of coolant in but it was doable. I used CPC NS6 qdcs with barbs and they're solid with epdm pushed on.

I layed it all out to be as unrestrictive as possible, even cut a hole in the case so I could move the res so that I could use fewer angle fittings.
Parts list - Alphacool core cpu and gpu blocks, heatkiller res and d5, heatkiller pci passthrough, high flow next, cpc ns6 qdcs, about 4m of epdm tubing and there are two 45 and one 90 degree fittings in the whole loop.

I get 120lph flow with the D5 at 85% and the water up to temp which is a reasonable place to be. This gets me an ambient to water temp delta of about 10c at 500w of load with fans at 450rpm. At 100% pump speed I get 150lph which drops the temps a couple of degrees but the pump becomes audible. At less than 70% pump speed it's trickle city. If I ever redo the loop I'll use an EK or heatkiller dual D5 housing in the case.

Pics are at the bottom of on page 173 of the gallery up there ^

Watercooled Case Gallery

Always had the same issue with phone cameras as well hence why i don't use it anymore. Doesn't depict reality at all, especially when phones these days use image smoothing and other tricks but in actuality i think it makes the image look worse. DSLR and a tripod with the correct settings...
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This is how things look at the moment, ive prepped a couple of things ready for the setup like fitted the RAM block, the radiator at the top will be coming out, it has too really as ive got no where else to run the pipes out of the back of the case, so with the Radiator out and the 3 fans moved up, i'll have plenty of room for the tubing, ive flushed the system out using an RO tap, its currently running distilled water, but as you can see, it still looks a bit green, so its going to need a few more flushes, i'll be replacing the tubing anyway, I just want to make sure the blocks and pump are clean as they cant be stripped down, I brought a 5 litre bottle of mayhems XT1 clear UV blue liquid from OCuk to fill the system with once its all done, due to the size of the case I dont think theres going to be anyway of avoiding 90 degree fittings etc as theres no where else in the case to put that pump / res combo, Ive just added some lines to the picture as a rough idea of where im going to run the tubing, but we'll see what works best when building and if I can avoid using so many bends, I think it will only end up being 2 pump res side, one on the ram block and maybe a 45 degree on the CPU as it heads out to the Mo-Ra.

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