Tate Brothers - Round 2

Ayahuasca said:
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What is the point you're making here?
 
Starmer cheerleading adolescence again and bbc will release it to schools [ can the adults see "Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone " ]
one of the reasons it is successful is that USA think it characterises UK situation (...so the usa is not too bad) and is based on real story (writers mentioned Axel Rudakubana !)
 
Just been talking to my next door neighbour who is a teacher of Year 11s.
He said the amount of misogyny fueled by Tate is a real problem at his school.
He said last week he had to leave class for a three hours and the lads refused to listen to a woman and misbehaved.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Just been talking to my next door neighbour who is a teacher of Year 11s.
He said the amount of misogyny fueled by Tate is a real problem at his school.
He said last week he had to leave class for a three hours and the lads refused to listen to a woman and misbehaved.
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While I'm no fan of Tate, He is not the real issue here.

The issue is poor parenting.

Even if they are not actively monitoring what their kids are doing online, you can take a bet they ARE getting updates from the school about this kind of behaviour.

At that point they are faced with a choice.. Take their responsibility as a parent seriously and discipline the little scroat(s), or not.

Tate's "popularity and influence" on school-age boys behaviour is a symptom, not the cause.
 
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Devilman said:
While I'm no fan of Tate, He is not the real issue here.

The issue is poor parenting.

Even if they are not actively monitoring what their kids are doing online, you can take a bet they ARE getting updates from the school about this kind of behaviour.

At that point they are faced with a choice.. Take their responsibility as a parent seriously and discipline the little scroat(s), or not.

Tate's "popularity and influence" on school-age boys behaviour is a symptom, not the cause.
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He's more like an agitator than a symptom. Who would have thought, roblox/minecraft vids being a gateway to bad behaviour.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Just been talking to my next door neighbour who is a teacher of Year 11s.
He said the amount of misogyny fueled by Tate is a real problem at his school.
He said last week he had to leave class for a three hours and the lads refused to listen to a woman and misbehaved.
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Kids taking the Michael out of substitute teachers isn't a new thing though. 1990s rappers misogyny was probably worse than Tate's. I'm thinking NWA, Snoop Dog, Dr Dre, Easy E. They literally talked about the R word in their raps amongst other unsavoury things. Although the exposure to them was more limited I suppose. Then you had R Kelly making young girls his 'pets'. P Diddy having decades of destroying lives. Jay Z grooming young girls.
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
Just been talking to my next door neighbour who is a teacher of Year 11s.
He said the amount of misogyny fueled by Tate is a real problem at his school.
He said last week he had to leave class for a three hours and the lads refused to listen to a woman and misbehaved.
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Was it also Andrew Tates fault when this was common at my School in the 80s and 90s or is it just that women have limited ability to control classrooms compared to their male counterparts?
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
Kids taking the Michael out of substitute teachers isn't a new thing though. 1990s rappers misogyny was probably worse than Tate's.
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We never listened to rap.
We still ripped into subbies like JD into Zelensky, and then some.

Lord-Jaffa said:
Was it also Andrew Tates fault when this was common at my School in the 80s and 90s or is it just that women have limited ability to control classrooms compared to their male counterparts?
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I went to an all-boys school. Some women were ignored. Those who really meant business were heeded more closely than our own mothers.
Also, you learnt to never **** with English teachers, regardless of their gender.
 
Efour said:
Are these kids religious too by any chance? Mecca variety.
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He does teach Muslims and he made the comment they have been like that for years but now all the white lads are having the same thoughts because of Tate.

ANDREW GREEN said:
Kids taking the Michael out of substitute teachers isn't a new thing though.
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It was more serious than taking the mick out of the substitute teacher, it was proper aimed nasty comments towards a woman.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Was it also Andrew Tates fault when this was common at my School in the 80s and 90s or is it just that women have limited ability to control classrooms compared to their male counterparts?
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It's really weird how I've spoken to teachers who've been in the job for 20+ years and they've said it's worse now than even when they were at school, and how they're actually getting Tate quotes thrown at them.

And lol at your little bit of nonsense at the end of that.


The first time I really heard of Tate was a few years back when a friends wife who works in a good school in a "good" area mentioned how she and other staff were having real problems with tate inspired behaviour of a type they'd never seen before and that she knew her school didn't have it as bad as some where her friends worked.
It's almost like having that sort of person setting themselves up as a role model for how to treat women, and having it available to anyone and everyone with no regulation, nothing to stop them accessing it, and a few clicks away is something a little bit different to the 80's and 90's.

I certainly don't remember this sort of behaviour being normal, or accepted by some when I was in school in that period, and the schools I went to were not necessarily great (I'm not going to mention names, but one was in a part of the UK that is really not nice).
 
Werewolf said:
It's really weird how I've spoken to teachers who've been in the job for 20+ years and they've said it's worse now than even when they were at school, and how they're actually getting Tate quotes thrown at them.
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One of my friends sends their kids to a private local school and last year asked me if I'd heard of Andrew Tate so I explained the best I could.
Her 11 year old son had been sent home with a letter because he had been heard quoting Tate stuff.
 
Or more that the 'ideal' male role model has shifted from 'hero, save the world' trope to 'immensely wealthy for doing nothing' trope. My 16 YO Grandson is stroppy (so was I as 16) and very lazy (I was not), as 'I don't need Maths or English to get on'. Maybe a few don't, but I'm willing to bet scratch the surface of any of these people and there will be a rotten role model underneath.
 
Nitefly said:
I wonder if the popularity with children is some new form of modern-age ‘rebellion’?

It must have some sort of “**** you” appeal.
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Maybe somewhat but he peddles many teenage boys dreams, driving sports cars, ie get rich quick, pick up artist with all the girls and supposed kickboxing champion. He is charasmatic, intelligent and usually wins debates/arguments. At the same time some of his advice and statements are unethical, but being unethical gets him what he wants.

I imagine if many boys follow his advise they could up in trouble with the police. I wonder if this is the case already
 
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