Help building an AMD system

Threepwood said:
I guess the question is what are ocuk advertising things as, mhz, sticks that won't run at statedted mhz, or not?
My corsair rgb vengence don't run at 6000, but I'm not that bothered right now because they run at 3000mhz happilly, and I paid a lot less for them from somewhere else that you would need an umbrella to walk around in
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I would say that they just copy paste the manufacturer, but Corsair actually use both. For example, they describe the SPD speed as 4800 Mhz (incorrect) and the rated speed as 6000 MT/s (correct) in the same product page :o
 
System finally built!

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Can't believe how long this has took me from getting the first part in May of last year!

Case: Lian Li Lancool 216 - £106.56 (New)

PSU: Cooler Master MWE 1250W Gold V2 PCI5.0 ATX3.0 - £99 (New)

M/B: Asus ROG Strix X670E-A £180 (S/H)

CPU: 7800X3D - £280 (S/H)

RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 AMD EXPO - £112.99 (New)

CPU Cooler: Thermalright peerless assassin 120 - £33.39 (New)

Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 1TB PCIe 4.0 - £91.79 (New)

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Components carried across from my old system,

GPU: RTX 3080

Storage: 4TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD

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Upgraded from

CPU: Intel 8700 (non-k)

M/B: TUF B360-PLUS

RAM: 32gb DDR4

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This is my first AMD build in at least 2 decades, I've always loved the stability that Intel has provided over the years but I don't think anyone even Intel fans can deny that they have faltered in recent years, what pushed me over was the X3D line of CPU's, they were just too impressive for the price to not give them a try out, it's only been a few days but even with the same GPU carried across the system feels a lot snappier and games much smoother.

First time booting the system it just stalled on a RAM error (Yellow light) on the M/B, reseating the RAM remedied that.

Only other niggle was the drivers, I remember having similar back in the day with AMD systems, even during the windows installation process it asked me for LAN drivers, and I also end up with device manager showing a few exclamation marks on unknown devices, it usually takes a while to remedy all of them, then updating the BIOS resulted in a few appearing again and a quick google recommended reinstalling the chipset drivers again and that worked, Intel I find you can just install Windows without any extra drivers and your on your way.

Windows 11 is a little buggy, hopefully that improves over time, that aside I'm happy with the upgrade and fingers crossed it stays stable, I've enabled EXPO in the BIOS so the RAM is running optimally.

It's nice to know that you have better longevity with AMD in terms of future CPU compatibility, with Intel by the time a meaningful CPU upgrade came along you tended to need to upgrade your M/B (and sometimes RAM) as well.
 
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Well that didn't last long :-(

Booted up system today and boot just stalls with yellow light on motherboard, turn system off and it boots up again, but restarted system and yellow light stall again, having a google and people say it could be CPU or motherboard which is going to be very hard to fault find and both parts were S/H, honestly I'm about ready to just go back to my old Intel system and call it a day tbh.
 
You bought a used motherboard and cpu, these things happen and could have also happened to a Intel system as well. Asking for LAN drivers is a Windows 11 issue and will happen to Intel systems as well. Several bios versions will tell you to update to the latest AMD chipset driver before flashing which is no different to Intel boards telling you to update the ME Firmware before flashing.

Which of the four led's is lit yellow? From the top you have CPU, Dram, VGA, Boot, which should tell you where your problem stems from. Nine times out of ten the cpu light being lit means a faulty cpu or socket damage. If the socket is ok and there is no thermal paste either in the socket pins or on the cpu contacts you could order the cheapest AM5 cpu you can find and use it for testing. If the system works you know the cpu is faulty and you have a cpu to use while you RMA the 7800x3d to AMD. If it doesn't work you know there's a problem with the motherboard. Don't give up on a system that is far more powerful than your old one just because you have run into a problem. Are you on the latest bios (2904) and latest chipset drivers (7.02.13.148 dated 25/02/2025) which are on AMD's website?

This is my first AMD system since Core2Duo was launched and I have had no problems with mine since I got used to the different bios. It's been rock solid and even though the memory isn't even on the QVL list it has worked perfectly just by enabling EXPO with no faults on any of the three profiles. I have even been able to tighten up the secondary timings by quite a large amount and it's still rock solid. Personally I always download the latest drivers and put them on a USB stick before dismantling the old system, that way once windows is installed I install all the drivers before updating windows. I do this on every system I build no matter if it's Intel or AMD and up until windows 11 asking for a LAN driver before it will continue to install I have had no problems. Even that has a workaround now so it's not really a issue as long as you know about it before installing.
 
I'm going to try and resolve this but it being a very intermittent problem it's going to be difficult, sometimes I cant reboot system 10 times and it's fine, and then I'll reboot and it'll stall with a yellow DRAM light, today I woke the system from sleep for example and it was just a black screen, I hit the reset button and it stalled with the red CPU LIGHT, held power button down, turn back on and everything back to normal, restarted system 5 times and working ok, I even hit reset in windows and it booted back up fine, completely random, I'd much rather it was a completely failed system rather being intermittent, what drives me crazy is in windows it's very stable even running benchmarks.

Things I've done thus far,

Updated to latest BIOS (2904) - problem still occurs.

Installed latest Chipset drivers and M/B drivers - Problem still occurs.

Disabled EXPO (Fault was occurring before EXPO was enabled - Problem still occurs.

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Currently testing enabling the 'monitoring software workaround' in Tweakers Paradise setting in BIOS.

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AM5 boot issues seem to be a very common fault when you search around the net, this does remind me of owning AMD back in the day rebooting the system repeatedly watching motherboard debug boot lights again preying it works.

This could take weeks as I have to change one thing at a time and wait for the problem to occur again, I am really hoping this problem and can be solved.
 
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Have you tried disabling fast boot and also disabled memory context restore? Fast boot can cause more problems that it solves and Memory Context Restore caused intermittent crashes on my pc when I first built it and was unfamiliar with the bios and what different things do. Once I disabled it my system has been solid and to be honest boot times are not that much slower with it disabled anyway.
 
pastymuncher said:
Have you tried disabling fast boot and also disabled memory context restore? Fast boot can cause more problems that it solves and Memory Context Restore caused intermittent crashes on my pc when I first built it and was unfamiliar with the bios and what different things do. Once I disabled it my system has been solid and to be honest boot times are not that much slower with it disabled anyway.
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Thanks I'll put that next on my list as I'm trying one thing at a time.
 
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