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Hey Guys, just looking for a little help please as the best way to go here.
Have been out of PC Gaming for many many years, my son who is 15 has dug out one of my old towers and found one of my old Asus Rog 165hz 1440p monitors, and is asking me to upgrade or change bits in the tower so he can play Apex on high settings. Now this tower is really old and I am guessing I probably need to change everything, but was wondering if I could get away with just changing the GPU for now? And if so which GPU would be best. So the specs of this ancient system are

RX 570 (Yes I am sure I need something much better in this regard and maybe a whole new setup)
i7 2600k @4.2
Gigabyte Z68 VPRO
16Gb DDR3 1600mhz
Old style ssd's

I was looking and it has been that long I don't really know what is best here, I am sure I could change the graphics card, but then I am betting the system would still run poorly? Budget wise, I dont have too much money so if I would need everything, may need to buy parts over 2 months. Any help would be great guys, the monitor still seems alright to be fair Asus PQ278 1440.

Thanks
 
Hi and welcome.

You should be able to run Apex Legends At 1080p 60fps with your pc ATM ,Sure you can chuck in a better GPU should increase FPS but that pc is old .

Does the pc have an SSD or mechanical hard drive ?

What's your budget for GPU and or new pc if wanted ?

How many FPS are you getting atm ?
 
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Has SSDs mate, it doesn't run well at 1080p, and the monitor is 1440p. I would probably be looking on the 2nd hand market, budget not really sure, open to advice really mate. It's just completely unplayable never even got to checking fps if I am being honest. What would you recommend.
 
Has SSDs mate, it doesn't run well at 1080p, and the monitor is 1440p. I would probably be looking on the 2nd hand market, budget not really sure, open to advice really mate. It's just completely unplayable never even got to checking fps if I am being honest. What would you recommend.
Download MSI afterburner so you can monitor FPS , CPU, GPU usage .


Set the screen and game resolution to 1080p low detail settings ,and see how it performs but install the afterburner first to monitor.

Report back.

Can you build a pc ?
 
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I have built computers for many years, tbh he wants apex to run at 1440p, so either way I will need to change parts won't I? So the 570 isn't suitable. Do you think we should try changing gpu? And if that's not enough change the lot. Thank you for your help
 
I have built computers for many years, tbh he wants apex to run at 1440p, so either way I will need to change parts won't I? So the 570 isn't suitable. Do you think we should try changing gpu? And if that's not enough change the lot. Thank you for your help
Could try a GPU Ok how much you got to spend on a GPU but Do realise the CPU will holding it back ?

To run Apex at 144 hz 1440p medium detail you need a 2080 or modern equivalent RTX 3060 Ti or an RX 6700 XT. Some sources also suggest it's similar to an RTX 4060.

 
If you where in this position, would you buy a motherboard, CPU ram and gpu? I am, contemplating between getting a gpu or just buying his a ps5 at this point mate. Probably have about £300 to spend on a gpu I would guess, but other than that I could may look at changing mobo CPU ram next month depending on how much they cost nowadays. So really would be looking as cheap as possible, but still aiming to play apex max settings at 1440p. If that can't be done cheap I think ps5 will have to do.
Thanks mate
 
This is the cheapest new build I'd do (AMD equivalent: Ryzen 5600), CPU cooler in the box.

But, I don't know how Arc does with Apex and despite being around double the speed of your RX 570, the A750 is really a 1080p card, not 1440p.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £384.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
 
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That's quite cheap, I would be open to get a 1440p card maybe and buy bits in 2 parts. Funny I was looking at that card this morning, being out of PC gaming for 10 years I am so lost now haha. I really do appteciate all the help guys, can't believe how little I know now
 
That's quite cheap, I would be open to get a 1440p card maybe and buy bits in 2 parts. Funny I was looking at that card this morning, being out of PC gaming for 10 years I am so lost now haha. I really do appteciate all the help guys, can't believe how little I know now
The A750 is similar to the 6600, they're decent value, but I would not recommend it for your current system, only if you buy a new one (because Arc requires rebar).

The B580 would be better suited to 1440p, but same applies as above, this is not suitable for your current motherboard.

I don't know when the 9060/5060 are due, but the £300(ish) GPU market is currently not great at all. You could get a 6750 XT for ~£300 awhile back, but they've dried up.
 
Ok thanks guys, I think what I will do is choose a motherboard /CPU/ram bundle and pick up a 2nd hand decent gpu. Either that or just get him a ps5, consoles ain't bad nowadays anyway. He already has the Xbox x, will look at bundles and see what can find for a rebuild
 
If your kiddo has only just started gaming I wouldn't spend too much money on a new rig. The 2600k will handle a gtx 1070/1080 fine and this will make a nice, balanced system.
The 1070-1080 can be had for £70 (1070) - 110 (1080) ballpark and this would be what I'd personally opt for, in the first instance. Your RM650 PSU will be able to handle these cards fine without an upgrade.
 
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I was looking at a MSI 980ti online for £60 as a stop gap last night but a 1080 or ti I did think about too, I actually remember back in the day I had a 1080ti running the same 1440p monitor fine, but it wasn't with that 2600k, quite sure it was on a 5960x. I will try getting hold of a 2nd hand card till I can get all new from ocuk I think then, thank you guys
 
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Too much. 1080ti is too much too, unless you overclock the 2600k.
1070 or 1080 would be the ones to get to pair with a 2600k.
(I used to run a 1080ti with an oc 3770k)
 
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Yeah 4.2ghz is nothing for sandy bridge CPUs. If you want to spend some time, as long as you have a semi decent cooler, you'd be able to get 4.7-4.8ghz easily
 
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