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My insurance was up for renewal and given I'm quite a low mileage user, I was looking around for quotes, and came across a thing Churchill are doing where you pay per mile.

I've signed up to give it a go, previous insurer wanted £530 for the year normal full comp, with this and the same mileage estimate I normally use, it's £380, and any miles I don't use I get refunded for them at the end of the year. I'd estimate my actual cost for the year would be nearer to £200-250 as I always over-estimate the miles a bit.

Anyone else used them/considered it? I think it's a novel approach that can appreciate the lower mileage drivers in a way insurance doesn't usually do.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
my breakdown cover with my bank didnt change when we went to EVs.....
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(never used a break-down yet, touch dakota leather) but for ev car cover thought that towing incidence could be more prevalent, or AA-man expertise more costly,
hence additional premium .. but -ok- banks/nationwide don't differentiate premium, it accompanies driver I guess; I usually buy it combined with Aviva/AA insurance
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[diddums seems to be a parcel expert , too - hmmh]
 
If UK remains tarif free for china, then they can cheeply import the new Nissan&co saloon - but why didn't they make it a hatch, does that add so much to the cost.
& wouldn't have been able to put the 6ft carpet roll from last weekend in that.

Powering the cockpit is the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8295P chip, with 32GB memory and 256GB storage space. It’s claimed the car will have the industry’s first adaptive posture AI core algorithm. This will keep the body in the most comfortable driving position through continuous learning and OTAs. Enabling this is an AI zero-pressure cloud blanket seat. Using 49 sensors, it can accurately identify changes in body pressure and automatically adjust the seat back, waist support, and leg support in real-time.
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Nissan N7 EV sedan launched in China for 16,450 USD

The Nissan N7 electric sedan from the Dongfeng-Nissan joint venture was launched in China with a starting price of 16,450 USD.
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Jon20 said:
Its just a MK8 Fiesta ST Line X with the 140bhp ecoboost, does have a Superchips Bluefin remap on it but that was mostly for the increased torque. Still expect the R5 to feel quicker :D
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Will be interesting to hear how it compares. For what it's worth, I've seen a few posts about dealers having cancelled R5 orders arriving in stock, so you might be able to pick one up far more quickly if you wanted to.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Having bought an EV in winter, it’s amazing to see the range shoot up in this weather, even with the air con blasting out.
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I like the option my Polestar has to physically turn off the heater - the EQC doesn’t have this, so I can only assume it’s doing things with it even if I’m only wanting cold air. The efficiency difference without the immersion heater running is huge!
 
Resident said:
57 complaints in the first week they were operational, all moaning they were too far from the entrance.

The 3 originals were some of the very first EV chargers and EOL. They were installed in 2011.

The 3 spaces have now been assigned as a pickup/drop off for the local door2door vehicle (disabled bus service), something else that cause a hoohar with taxis as they've ANPR camera'd it to stop taxis from abusing it instead of the taxi drop off 10 metres away.

I love this new store manager, he seems to love upsetting people who think they're entitled to do as they please
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That is one seriously popular EV charging point! And people say no one uses them, 57 complaints in a week is mega result goes to show how in demand they are, the original 3x 50kW units must have been permanently full with 57 complaints.

Also people are lazy expletives, probably all the fatties who are complaining. :cry: :D
 
Any recommendations for a small city EV for the missus? She hasn't driven for 15 years but is now having refresher lessons. It will only be used for local trips in or around where we live. I was thinking something small fiesta sized.
 
A Leaf or a Zoe.

Neither will have great ranges but they are both good value and well equipped cars for their class.

If you want something smaller then there is the VW Up and it’s Skoda (citi go?) and seat (mii) clones which are good little cars but not as good value typically as a leaf or Zoe.
 
danlightbulb said:
Any recommendations for a small city EV for the missus? She hasn't driven for 15 years but is now having refresher lessons. It will only be used for local trips in or around where we live. I was thinking something small fiesta sized.
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Mentioned this a couple of posts back, you can get a nearly new Dacia Spring 65 Xtreme for £10.5k, if you are looking for newish.

If you are looking really cheap, any Leaf other than a 30, and the really old pre-13 plate 24's. If Zoe avoid high milage, also the old ones are AC only, not rapid capable.
 
danlightbulb said:
Leaf is different charger though right? Is Zoe standard connector?
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Yes and no.

Older ones have type 1 AC, newer ones have type 2 AC (standard on all cars now). You can adapt between type 1 and type 2 as needed.

They rapid charge on chademo which isn’t super relevant for local journeys.

Chademo is ‘widely supported for now’ but not all stations have it, e.g. Ionity and Tesla don’t install any Chademo connectors at all.

Edit: older Zoe’s don’t have CCS rapid charging but some can charge at 44kw on AC otherwise they top out at 22kw AC. 44kw AC charging points are so few and far between now they may as well not exist. Essentially, if the Zoe doesn’t have CCS it doesn’t rapid charge.
 
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She wants to do it through her work salary sacrifice scheme (doesn't want any maintenance hassle). A Dacia Spring is about £280-300 a month net, all insurance etc included. Think that's any good?
 
The Spring is about as basic as it gets in the car world.

The base model is very slow and can’t even do 70mph IIRC - is that version sold here?

Personally if it were me I’d probably go for something slightly better what’s next on the list when you sort from low to high? You might not need to spend much more to get a ‘proper car’ like a Corsa or 208 etc.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
The Spring is about as basic as it gets in the car world.

The base model is very slow and can’t even do 70mph IIRC - is that version sold here?

Personally if it were me I’d probably go for something slightly better what’s next on the list when you sort from low to high? You might not need to spend much more to get a ‘proper car’ like a Corsa or 208 etc.
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UK spec 45 model will do 78 mph... eventually. 0-60 is 19.1s which in todays acceleration arms race leaves you pretty out gunned and probably makes it a frustrating and probably slightly daunting proposition to take beyond the urban environment.

As we're talking salary sacrifice I'm sure much better cars will come up for not much more money as the Spring has already shown itself to be a depreciation disaster from new.
 
danlightbulb said:
She wants to do it through her work salary sacrifice scheme (doesn't want any maintenance hassle). A Dacia Spring is about £280-300 a month net, all insurance etc included. Think that's any good?
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Why don't you tell us the cars that are around the same pricing on the scheme (eg. £300 per month - since the price is not always directly related to RRP we don't know what her choices are) and we can tell you which ones could be the better ones on the list?

In all honesty though £300 a month for a local runaround is still a lot of money.. a used 2nd hand car would be a better bet (EV or not)
 
chanjy said:
Why don't you tell us the cars that are around the same pricing on the scheme (eg. £300 per month - since the price is not always directly related to RRP we don't know what her choices are) and we can tell you which ones could be the better ones on the list?

In all honesty though £300 a month for a local runaround is still a lot of money.. a used 2nd hand car would be a better bet (EV or not)
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Fair enough here's a selection of smallest cars I can see. All based on 5k miles a year 48 months contract.

Dacia Spring Extreme £288
Citroen e-C3 44kWh 113 £340
BYD Dolphin 60kWh 204 Comfort £381
Fiat 500e 42kWh 118 £491
Peugeot e-208 50kWh 136 Allure £536.


None of these appear good value to me.
 
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Yeah that's crazy prices. The BYD is probably the best on the price/drivability ratio, but at nearly £400/month it's ridiculous. I'd get a loan and buy second hand. At 6.5%, £300/month gives you just under a £13k budget which is more than enough for a city car for the wife and then you should also have something to trade in when the time comes.
 
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