Poll: Official 2025 Miami Grand Prix Race Thread - Miami International Autodrome - Race 6/24

Rate the first K race out of ten

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SpartaP said:
In fairness to Lando this race, other than taking a couple more laps to get passed Max, I don't think he's done much wrong this weekend. Been faster than Oscar overall this weekend imo.
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Norris is still faster than Piastri in race trim because he understands the tyres better but Piastri is a better overtaker. It's going to come down to mental strength, imo, and Piastri seems - despite his youth and inexperience - to have the edge over Lando there.

As you say, a lot of races to go. It's not a done deal by any means.
 
Getting fed up with RB and Max now, they’re just being irritating every chance they get.

I think the drivers are getting a bit fed up with his driving now.
Max is a great driver, but he really needs to stop behaving like a brat.
 
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imtoooldforthis said:

yet another example of why corner ownership rules suck, so much of the car alongside but nope, not good enough, not your corner, off the track you go :p

edit: Although looking back it does look like Max had a moment on corner entry that pushed him wider than he perhaps might have otherwise gone ? Be nice to see his steering. Looks like he went in to the corner too hot causing the little wobble on entry.
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Very much a lap 1 thing plus having the inside line. Cold tyres and they're all trying to floor the accelerator to get that corner advantage.

I like how Oscar took 1 race to adapt to racing Max - very smooth overtake although I don't think it would've been as easy without such a significant car advantage. Crazy that you can be several tenths per lap faster and still not be able to overtake; these regs are a bit rubbish.
 
Mr Jack said:
As you say, a lot of races to go. It's not a done deal by any means.
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From the interviews Lando suggests he’s still not comfortable with the car at all. So if gets into a window where he likes it, and is comfortable he could easily be faster than Oscar. I still think he’s got the raw speed. Definitely not all over.
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Yes but it's 'only' €2000, so in the grand scheme of F1, that'd be like charging you or I 20 pence to lodge a protest :p
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I like the Zak Brown idea of a big charge to shut Horner and co up, and stop them from making accusations willy nilly.
 
Greboth said:
That does Piastri a disservice though. Pressuring your opponent in to a mistake has the been the opening to countless overtakes.
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I don't think it does him a disservice, yes he pressured him into braking as late as possible but the reality is he got past quickly because Max locked up not because he had superior racecraft to Norris.

Once Max had locked up he knew where he could and couldn't brake and was never going to make the same mistake twice and thus it was always going to be harder for Norris to get past.

I think that's a fair statement and doesn't do Piastri a disservice, it's just the reality of it.
 
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Greboth said:
That does Piastri a disservice though. Pressuring your opponent in to a mistake has the been the opening to countless overtakes.
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It's crazy how people will downplay Oscar's racing when he's still relatively new to F1, he's made FAR fewer mistakes than Norris, and clearly has better racing instincts.

It'll be sad if Norris wins this championship purely on luck.
 
Mesai said:
It'll be sad if Norris wins this championship purely on luck.
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That being overly critical of Norris as well, no amount of luck will win you an F1 championship, there is some skill involved, and no one is perfect. McLaren have a pair of good drivers, and they will reap the benefits at the back end of the season if they are this close to each other and already secured the CC.
 
Norris just makes too many mistakes. Instead of showing patience at the start, he put himself exactly where Max could push him off, it was a stupid move.

That McLaren is quick though. It’s in a different league.

Max is making a good few errors now he isn’t in the fastest car.

Lewis seeing what we’ve seen at Ferrari for years and why Vettel could never win the championship with them. The tea break comment made me laugh.
 
The impact Piastri has made as the new team member in this short amount of time is extremely impressive. You could argue it was easier to adapt as he joined when Mclaren turned their car around to be one of the quickest cars on the grid. His mental game is definitely much stronger than Landos too.

However, you can't discount Lando, put aside some comments he makes, and mannerisms, he is the quicker of the 2 drivers imo. It's going to hurt him more mentally knowing Oscar has won more GPs, but he has to remember he joined mclaren long before Oscar when their car was nowhere and he was a massive part of turning that car around.

His ability in the wet is extremely impressive, his tyre management is still superior and over a lap he is quicker overall, he certainly knows how to handle that mclaren. He has no problem charging up the grid to regain positions he's lost, no matter the driver, except Max.

Some of the comments I'm reading here are that people are completely discounting Lando and/or he's blown his chances etc. That's fine, but I disagree.

Once Lando can improve his mental game, and not let Max live in his head and allow his driving ability to take over, I think we'll see a more dominant, and crucially a more consistent Lando. I'm hoping it's a matter of when and not if.

It's still early days yet and so many more races to go. I very much like both the mclaren drivers, I bet Zak couldn't be more happier.
 
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