EV general discussion
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But you are talking about how it drives I suppose? I am saying I am not to bothered. I will be doing a test drive and as long as it is not terrible I am fine with that.
I have looked at price, performance, features, looks, reliability and landed on Cupra Born and Nero EV for the price range I am happy to spend.
If it were my first EV, and you are just trying something first time around I'd look at something like the below, and keep it a couple of years as you'll lose very little
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Plenty warranty remaining, fully battery health and battery still in warranty, top of the range 4+ spec. Either give it a good interior valet your self, or pay someone and it'll come up like new (probably).
Looks good for the price tbf. And then what though after a couple of years? What will have changed?
Only thing i can think of is EV3 comes down in price to a range I am happy with.
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If it were my first EV, and you are just trying something first time around I'd look at something like the below, and keep it a couple of years as you'll lose very little
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Plenty warranty remaining, fully battery health and battery still in warranty, top of the range 4+ spec. Either give it a good interior valet your self, or pay someone and it'll come up like new (probably).
I guess it only has plenty of warranty remaining if you don't do many miles a year! That's only got 15k miles left warranty wise.
At that mileage, it might be throwing up lots of worn suspension bits etc at MOTs too (depending on what's already been done)
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Looks good for the price tbf. And then what though after a couple of years? What will have changed?
Only thing i can think of is EV3 comes down in price to a range I am happy with.
Exactly that, you'll have a much bigger choice of the more modern replacements for these, kind of, 1st gen mainstream EV's, and you'll get a chance to look at something much longer term with some knowledge of how an EV will work for you, and things you'd like to have/avoid, but experienced a minimal cost to yourself.
The 4+ is a great spec so easier to move on as well, you'll lose way less in 18-24 months that something newer, and it'll likely still be in warranty, assuming you are only doing 7-8k miles per year.
You look like an uber driver though
Yeh, and the previous gen Niro is not a very good looking car in my opinion. It's so boring and bland to look it with zero design flair to it) Which is odd for Kia, as generally their cars are some of the nicest looking on the road.
The new one is nice though (as SUVs go..)
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I suppose if you don't care about the money then its the easy option. Cheapest Niro '4' I can find is a 72 plate at £22,995 so £10k more for a car that is 18 months younger.
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£10k more but also 60k miles lessI suppose if you don't care about the money then its the easy option. Cheapest Niro '4' I can find is a 72 plate at £22,995 so £10k more for a car that is 18 months younger.
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It's not just the age difference lol
I suppose if you don't care about the money then its the easy option. Cheapest Niro '4' I can find is a 72 plate at £22,995 so £10k more for a car that is 18 months younger.
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60k miles difference though.
He probably would get a decent chunk of that 10k difference back come resale time compared to the other one (assuming he doesn't keep it for absolutely ages). Plus he'll have 5 years and 77k mileage warranty with that one as opposed to 3 years and 15k mileage.
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I am well aware of that, the point was it the first EV, the first one has full battery health and there is going to be very little value lost in 2 years, vs the new version, and then you'll have a better choice at a lower cost. It is their first EV, and in 2 years if he decides he hates the newer more expensive one he'll have lost £7-8k potentially if he decides to get rid.
So funny sometimes you give genuine advice where there is a legitimate comparison to be made, an you get people going lol, maybe add something useful instead?
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are we meant to be? they worry me a bit. sure they are efficient in terms of packaging (so potentially smaller cars with bigger range) and cheaper to build (and therefore buy) but I would have thought a modular pack would be less problematic for cheaper repairs in an accident .
given insurance companies already seem desperate to write of cars rather than repair I would rather discourage that .
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I dare say for a huge proportion of the population that is exactly how they see a car. an appliance to get from A to B as reliably and cheaply as possible and in comfort.
things like handling or 0-60 don't come into it
with kids in the mix, safety also a concern but really not the driving characteristics.
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Id agree that most people seem to be thinking that way. I can't think of anything more boring though, it feels like the soul is being sucked out of me when experiencing a <insert generic cheap/comfortable> car
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I don't disagree. I went from a nissan 350z to a 2012 pre facelift 1.5 diesel nissan QQ and what made it worse I had to pay 7k on top as well . it broke my heart but at the time I needed a safe reliably family car and my job was at risk (when it is not??) so fun was low down the list.Id agree that most people seem to be thinking that way. I can't think of anything more boring though, it feels like the soul is being sucked out of me when experiencing a <insert generic cheap/comfortable> car
the nissan QQ 1.5 diesel is many things and I can't knock it for what it was. but an engaging drive certainly wasn't one of them.... but back in the day it won car of the year and they sold boat loads of them so it must have done something right
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The issue with that argument is there are plenty of cars for the same price as a give up on life Qashqai that do absolutely everything better.
More practical
More fun to drive
Look better
Handle better
Better performance
No worse economy
I had the face lift 2014 Qashai and it was absolutely terrible on every single objective metric. I bought it because it subjectively looked nice and the “reviews” were all positive because these useless ******* drive a press car for 2 hours then do a “review”. It is why I NEVER EVER read actual press reviews any more.
I sold it after 13 months and took a massive loss on it. Poorly built, terrible to drive and utterly depressing.
Long term user reviews and owner forums give far better info on what is and what is not a good car.
More practical
More fun to drive
Look better
Handle better
Better performance
No worse economy
I had the face lift 2014 Qashai and it was absolutely terrible on every single objective metric. I bought it because it subjectively looked nice and the “reviews” were all positive because these useless ******* drive a press car for 2 hours then do a “review”. It is why I NEVER EVER read actual press reviews any more.
I sold it after 13 months and took a massive loss on it. Poorly built, terrible to drive and utterly depressing.
Long term user reviews and owner forums give far better info on what is and what is not a good car.
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Should be a good week for efficiency considering the raised morning temperatures. Getting about 50 miles more on the same charge vs when I bought the car back in February.
Tbf I did appreciate the advice on two seperate posts. Thought about it, but felt for me i would prefer going directly to the Nero EV. Does not mean your advice was bad or unappreciated.
My guess as to why people lol is because you compared a car with a huge difference in milage. Not to mention old shape and less warranty.
If i enjoyed changing vehicles often like some do, i would not mind. But that is not my thing. If my current car didnnot start having to spend time in the garage multiple times a year lately I would probably be sticking with it for another couple of years.
I can't see how i won't get on with an EV. I don't have range issues. I rarely do that kind of milage in one go. 250 miles is plenty for me.
Exactly this. Fun to drive people say. I don't care tbh. As long as it ain't absolutely **** then I am fine.
If the Nero EV was absolutely **** to drive then that would have come up in my research. What I have seen it is at worst ok to drive, which is fine with me. It is a family car.
Everyone's needs are different.
This is sort of a strange point/comment people make really i think (ie the "getting on with EVs" thing).
Unless you are a serious petrol head who craves the sound of an ICE and a clutch and a gearstick, an EV really is no different to having an automatic car. If you have the means to charge it at home (ie a house with a drive), and don't go on 300 mile + round trips constantly, there is nothing to not "get on with" really.
I totally get how an EV won't be for everyone, but i think for a hell of a lot of people, an EV would suit them fine.
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