Road Cycling

We had a guy crack BOTH carbon rims in a ride yesterday. Went straight into an unsighted hole. Made a hell of a noise! Think he has insurance so he'll be alright.

The joys of this wonderful country :rolleyes:
 
Well, I had my first fall off the bike yesterday — does that make me officially a cyclist now?

It was a silly mishap involving me and a friend’s son. We had just set off from his house and were heading onto a dual carriageway. We stopped at a set of traffic lights, with me on the inside and him on the outside. His dad had already made it through the lights before they turned red and had hopped up onto the shared pavement/cycle path.

When the lights turned red, the guy on the outside turned in toward the curb — right into me — while I was going straight on. That pushed me off balance, and I fell back into the traffic lane, landing on my right thumb and palm. Thankfully, there were no cars around at the time. I quickly picked myself up and walked over to the pavement.

There were no cuts or bruises, and the bike was fine. My thumb and palm took the brunt of the fall, but thankfully nothing seems broken — I can move everything without issue, just a bit of pain.

As a novice cyclist, I felt he should have told me exactly where and when we were planning to move onto the cycle path, especially since I’m unfamiliar with that area of Belfast. He commutes that route daily, so he was probably on autopilot and assumed I knew where we were going. That said, I’ll hold my hands up and admit I should have been more aware of his movements and asked whether we were going straight on once the lights turned green.

It took me a good chunk of the ride to relax and settle back in, though I remained a bit wary of him for the rest of the day.

Both of us to blame or should the more experience cyclists given more indiciation on our path?
 
Well, I had my first fall off the bike yesterday — does that make me officially a cyclist now?

It was a silly mishap involving me and a friend’s son. We had just set off from his house and were heading onto a dual carriageway. We stopped at a set of traffic lights, with me on the inside and him on the outside. His dad had already made it through the lights before they turned red and had hopped up onto the shared pavement/cycle path.

When the lights turned red, the guy on the outside turned in toward the curb — right into me — while I was going straight on. That pushed me off balance, and I fell back into the traffic lane, landing on my right thumb and palm. Thankfully, there were no cars around at the time. I quickly picked myself up and walked over to the pavement.

There were no cuts or bruises, and the bike was fine. My thumb and palm took the brunt of the fall, but thankfully nothing seems broken — I can move everything without issue, just a bit of pain.

As a novice cyclist, I felt he should have told me exactly where and when we were planning to move onto the cycle path, especially since I’m unfamiliar with that area of Belfast. He commutes that route daily, so he was probably on autopilot and assumed I knew where we were going. That said, I’ll hold my hands up and admit I should have been more aware of his movements and asked whether we were going straight on once the lights turned green.

It took me a good chunk of the ride to relax and settle back in, though I remained a bit wary of him for the rest of the day.

Both of us to blame or should the more experience cyclists given more indiciation on our path?
I think the experienced rider needs to be aware of those in the group to be honest.
 
Makes seeing potholes an absolute pain though! (the dappled sunlight). But yesterday was lovely, and much warmer than Saturday!
I'm glad it's not just me. We were riding with a guy who has very high standards for the signalling and calling things out. I had him behind me a couple of times when I was very late with a pothole call because I simply didn't see it until I was almost in it myself. I realised it was from the shadows and light issue, but thought maybe it was my eyes getting old or maybe even the glasses not being good for the difference in brightness.
When the lights turned red, the guy on the outside turned in toward the curb — right into me — while I was going straight on. That pushed me off balance, and I fell back into the traffic lane, landing on my right thumb and palm.
I'm a little confused how you fell outside, if the other guy was outside turning in on you? Were you side by side, or were you overlapping his back wheel? Initial response would be he should have signalled/made his intentions clear... unless he thought you were behind and following?

It is tricky when you ride in a group with people you don't know and can't predict so well. One of our group, I learnt quite quickly that I didn't want to descend behind him. He seemed to randomly just squeeze his brakes on what I thought was a rather safe and hazard-free descent.
 
I'm a little confused how you fell outside, if the other guy was outside turning in on you? Were you side by side, or were you overlapping his back wheel? Initial response would be he should have signalled/made his intentions clear... unless he thought you were behind and following?

It is tricky when you ride in a group with people you don't know and can't predict so well. One of our group, I learnt quite quickly that I didn't want to descend behind him. He seemed to randomly just squeeze his brakes on what I thought was a rather safe and hazard-free descent.
Sorry, for the confusion. Here is a picture of the traffic lights. We were in the inside lane with the lights red. Both of us were two abreast and when the lights went green he turned towards the curb, unfortunately the grey van is blocking the view but its a dropped kerb for pedestrians. I think I fell outside, because he continued to plough through me and ended up getting onto the pavement, and I lost my balance and fell right.

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You will officially be a cyclist when you have clipless pedals and fall in front of a bunch of people due to not being able to unclip.
I have tried them once, two years ago, five days out from a half marathon race and landed on my hip that bruised and had swollen up. I've not been on them since!
 
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Yeah, that seems an odd thing to do, without communicating it in any way. Did he say anything afterwards? (Either apologising, or saying 'why didn't you go onto the bike path'?)
Yes, he did say sorry and said he thought he know were I was going, e.g. up the curb. My response was to say I thought we were going further up this point in the road:
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I'd driven past it, and was vaguely aware that lead to the underpass and was the cycle lane. I thought the pavement was solely for pedestrians.
 
No, never used the alarm on it. Have worn it for prolonged periods in much warmer parts of the world than your little patch of England and it’s been fine so doubt the sun has killed it. Coincidental I’d expect.
Ahhh, fair enough, nor me!

After my re-pair routine last week it has stayed connected and behaved itself.

Went for my first decent ride since about August today. A hilly 80km or so in Kent with about 1500m elevation. Fantastic day for it, and had a whale of a time, but absolutely broken now! Need to get some miles back into the legs.
Well done! Give us a look at what you rode! ;)

I did the Chartridge century ride again yesterday. It felt that I hadn’t made much progress since last year, but bought me moving time down from 6:45 to 6:10 and total time from 7:25 to 6:40. The average power only went up 21 watts, but felt far more confident on the bike particularly downhill. Also used the drops for windy/fast sections and able to relax and chat during the ride. I won’t be able to ride often, but it does make me think i should find a local club for group riding.
Good steady improvements, well done! Link your Strava activity/ride we all like to be nosy! :)

If you enjoy the social side then definitely find some local clubs. Look for one you like the sound of, nice and convenient so easy to dip in&out with low commitment, do your kinda distances/speeds (maybe only slightly more for a challenge) and ask if you can ride a few times before becoming a member. Most should let you!

Makes seeing potholes an absolute pain though! (the dappled sunlight). But yesterday was lovely, and much warmer than Saturday!
Yeah Saturday was a weird one wasn't it? Stayed overcast with us until about 3pm. Meant to be 10 degrees but starting out at 7-8 it really didn't warm up. Saw <5 mins of sunshine while riding - our morning social when we'd talked about having ice creams at a local airfield turned into coffees+cakes hiding in the cafe/shed!

We had a guy crack BOTH carbon rims in a ride yesterday. Went straight into an unsighted hole. Made a hell of a noise! Think he has insurance so he'll be alright.

The joys of this wonderful country :rolleyes:
Ouch! Glad he held it up and only rims damaged. Bugs me when holes are unsighted when you're group riding, especially this time of year when there's a few more riders out who may not know the regular places which have been bad all winter & spring. If you're on the front you call out holes!

Especially in Herefordshire/West-midlands. We're second worst for potholes in the country. Don't think we've been out of the bottom 3 for a few years. But have to admit there's more and more resurfacing and repairs happening late-24 and into 2025, just the roads have been so bad for such a long period of time it'll take them a while to catch back up. Allegedly They've spending £8m+ per year now after many years of spending £1m...

Both of us to blame or should the more experience cyclists given more indiciation on our path?
Yeah you're officially one of us now - but you where before, don't need to fall off to be a cyclist! ;)

Yeah sounds like mostly his fault - he rode into you and he was the one with all the space outside of him so he didn't need to come over. Side by side? But riding with friends you're kinda 'in it together' so look after each other - which he should be doing some of for you as he was the one knowing the route/location/road. So normally maybe should be taking the lead, or he was expecting to - probably what caused it. So he should probably have been in front of you, or made it known he was going to came across. He maybe expected you to take off from the lights slower to follow his lead - at the end of the day if you're getting split up he'd prefer to be with his dad in front so he wasn't likely to hang back waiting for you to go in front unless he'd instructed you to - or was directing your turns and 'guarding' you from traffic.

But one of those things. Accidents and mistakes happen. You give your riding buddies more trust than others around you, but that does have to be earned & kept - as you say you where more wary of him for the rest. No bad thing - being a commuter he's likely an ok bike handler, but his spacial awareness might be poor/lacking from all the traffic riding. But there's bad cyclists out there - just as much as bad drivers out there. Not much we can do about it - just in that scenario you now have a direct expereince/opinion of his riding/positioning and how much you can trust him (not much), so now can act and ride accordingly around him! :)
 
he did say sorry and said he thought he know were I was going
Tbf, it's an easy mistake if it's a route you ride a lot where you always go that way, maybe even it's ridden with others often, you assume everyone knows, or you simply don't think about it, but I would say yes, it is his mistake.
 
Good steady improvements, well done! Link your Strava activity/ride we all like to be nosy! :)

If you enjoy the social side then definitely find some local clubs. Look for one you like the sound of, nice and convenient so easy to dip in&out with low commitment, do your kinda distances/speeds (maybe only slightly more for a challenge) and ask if you can ride a few times before becoming a member. Most should let you!
Thank you, there is a local club in high Wycombe I could try that would be a 20 minute ride or short drive to the common meet point. Will drop an email.


Not sure if that’s worked.
 
Does this thread include gravel? I'm looking for some new tyres, 700 x 40 odd. Want a good all rounder as I do ride quite a lot of road as well, I mix the terrain up when I go out. Any suggestions?
 
I like Vittoria Terreno Mix for my does a bit of everything tyre, use it for racing CX and riding gravel in 38 and it works in a bit of mud too.
 
All good. Great ride & well done! Good consistent improvement over the previous, but a solid day out!

Does this thread include gravel? I'm looking for some new tyres, 700 x 40 odd. Want a good all rounder as I do ride quite a lot of road as well, I mix the terrain up when I go out. Any suggestions?
Kindof - maybe more roadie's transfer over, or gravel riders tend to have road bikes - no idea if our MTB thread and how active it is, or how many gravellers are in there and not here. I think @grudas had some bigger tyres on his and had done some gravel?

I always liked the Specialized 'Roubaix Pro' as a tough and grippy winter road tyre. Think they used to spec them on their lighter gravel bikes (my Diverge 2016 came with them fitted - but it was really 'pre-gravel' at that point and more of a trails bike), but now they put the Pathfinders on them. Certainly the '2bliss' version of the Roubaix where damn good for the money (almost unbeatable - a tubeless road tyre for <£30!), just a shame they jacked up the prices and reduced down the options since.
 
Does this thread include gravel? I'm looking for some new tyres, 700 x 40 odd. Want a good all rounder as I do ride quite a lot of road as well, I mix the terrain up when I go out. Any suggestions?
Tricky to find anywhere now, but for road and light offroad, Marathon Supremes aren't bad. Got 35/40mm on my egravel, loads of life left after being on my old commuter hybrid.
 
Does this thread include gravel? I'm looking for some new tyres, 700 x 40 odd. Want a good all rounder as I do ride quite a lot of road as well, I mix the terrain up when I go out. Any suggestions?
Hutchinson caracal race is what I run as an all around tire. Handles gravel no problems, I’ve been on light stuff, muddy paths etc and it’s fine. Rolls great on road too. All around decent tire and have had no punctures yet.


Make sure it’s the “race” version.
 
Did 20k in 44 minutes today which I'm quite happy with as a rodie noob.

This is with the £50 road bike and baggy clothes. No idea how much difference proper gear would make. (But getting my excuses in anyway )

57.8kmh top speed which was the funnest bit!
 
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Nearly lost my door key this morning. :o I locked the door, put it in the saddle bag and zipped it closed, not realising I was pushing it round and leaving it hanging by the end of the key. I got back home to find no key in the bag. Fortunately I found it 1/4 mile down the road still in one piece.
 
Hutchinson caracal race is what I run as an all around tire. Handles gravel no problems, I’ve been on light stuff, muddy paths etc and it’s fine. Rolls great on road too. All around decent tire and have had no punctures yet.


Make sure it’s the “race” version.

Was coming in to post the same thing too
 
Nearly lost my door key this morning. :o I locked the door, put it in the saddle bag and zipped it closed, not realising I was pushing it round and leaving it hanging by the end of the key. I got back home to find no key in the bag. Fortunately I found it 1/4 mile down the road still in one piece.
Very lucky! I did similar many years ago, but my bundle of keys made such a noise I knew instantly what had happened! Since then always put them into my jersey pocket or a designated pocket in my commute bag. Group rides (no bag) they're in the bottom of my 'food pocket' so help hold that down when fishing things out and more likely to notice them if they've moved above things so can push them further down.

Nearly lost more than my keys this morning - some drizzle so possibly driver inattentive and dirty windscreen? Plainly didn't see me when pulling out, nor when they nearly hit me - check the road position, didn't even swerve.

**NSFW** sorry - bad language :D

Wearing a bright orange gabba and a flashing front light...

Did 20k in 44 minutes today which I'm quite happy with as a rodie noob.

This is with the £50 road bike and baggy clothes. No idea how much difference proper gear would make. (But getting my excuses in anyway )

57.8kmh top speed which was the funnest bit!
27-28kph so around 17/18mph. Good average without knowing the elevation/stops/turns/roads etc. Well done! Keep it up!

'Proper gear'? Bike maybe 1-2kph faster for the same effort and kit probably similar or a bit less... The faster you go the more efficient things like bikes & kit become, but the 'best' £10k race bikes not massively more at 30kph. But if you're doing 40-50kph the differences would be more noticeable.

My SL7 (fairly aero with deep 45mm rims) is noticeably better/easier at holding speed once doing 22-23-24mph than my Diverge (road setup but not an aero frame, heavier and alloy standard wheels). Slower 'social' speeds on flatter parts like your 17/18mph there doesn't feel much difference, certainly more difference on rolling/hilly routes - just carries speed so much easier while being stiffer and lighter to climb (3-4kg lighter), I don't really go much faster - just end up waiting longer for clubmates at tops of climbs! Even flat roads if I'm on the front and not paying enough attention I'll ride everyone off my wheel as the speed creeps up - aero bikes want to travel at 20mph+
 
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