***Sid Meier's Civilization VII***
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Unless they have any naval or ranged units.
In terms of game stability, bugs etc ... it's fine. But still lacking content and I remain unconvinced by some of the game mechanics eg. 3 separate ages, which will presumably never change. I'd recommend waiting until next year, by which point most of the DLC on to the roadmap will have been released. Even then it probably requires another major expansion, or two, to add some meat to the bones ( it was the same with Civ 5 and 6 ).
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Is this just going to be another wait 2-3 years before its worth it? I keep seeing a ton of DLC's to buy for it, far more than VI
Oof
"On Tuesday May 13, the number of people playing Civilization 7 concurrently fell below 5,000, to 4,874. Compare that to Civilization 6, which has close to 23,000 concurrent users right now, and even Civ 5, at 9,647"
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Can't see this one being turned around especially not at 2025 prices.
"On Tuesday May 13, the number of people playing Civilization 7 concurrently fell below 5,000, to 4,874. Compare that to Civilization 6, which has close to 23,000 concurrent users right now, and even Civ 5, at 9,647"
Even with all of Firaxis' updates, Civilization 7 is still having a very tough time on Steam
Civilization 7’s Steam player count pales in comparison to Civ 6 and Civ 5, but Firaxis still has a chance to fix its faltering 4X sequel.
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Can't see this one being turned around especially not at 2025 prices.
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They seem to have really messed this one up, I didn't enjoy the move from 5 to 6 at the start as I felt like they basically stripped out features to get 6 instead of rolling in 5's final design. Its felt like we are paying for same old stuff again over and over.
The fact that basis functionally of playing the game is missing is **** poor imo, I couldnt bring myself to pay for it this time as they stripped away stuff to move from 6 to 7, very shoddy.
The fact that basis functionally of playing the game is missing is **** poor imo, I couldnt bring myself to pay for it this time as they stripped away stuff to move from 6 to 7, very shoddy.
Its better than it was at launch but I fear that the fundamental design choices may well stop me from ever truly enjoying the game. Not going to lie, its a very sad state of affairs, the Civ games have been top titles in my gaming library for me, for almost 35 years, so its a real shame for my thoughts on it to be this way. I've always viewed Civ as the king of the genre which effectively it created but maybe its time for a new head for the crown, they've done superbly though to fight off SO many challengers to their throne for over 3 decades. I've got my eyes on Endless Legend 2 later this year as the next potential regent of the genre, I'm really liking the sound of some of their game mechanics.
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Hmm sounds like I might not be back, not this year for sure to check in on it. Regarding the alternatives I did try Endless Legend 1 but I couldnt gel with it and it just didnt feel like a direct runner to Civ so I'm not all that sure there is an alternative I want to play either which sucks.
This is the feeling I got with real time strategy when C&C and Starcraft finally died off, felt like the whole genre died a death
Another big patch (1.2.1) has dropped with a whole whack of balance changes, mods through Steam Workshop, and those Large and Huge maps people were complaining about are finally available.
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It will be interesting to see if Modders can rescue this game.
There are already quite a lot of mods; they just aren't being offered through Steam Workshop.
They have helped quite a lot with fixing UI issues, etc, but it seems that a lot of people just don't like the three Age structure and I don't think that modders are going to really address that. It's a shame; I think it's comfortably the best iteration of Civ even with the UI issues.
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If the internet is to be believed the player numbers for this are not good especially compared to legacy Civ games. You may be a in a minority in getting so much enjoyment out of it.
Yeah, it hasn't enjoyed the popularity of earlier Civ games. Mind you, the last couple of iterations have been met with negativity in their earlier days and picked up popularity as they've developed, so its hard to tell how different that really is. That may happen this time, or it may be that people never really gel with the three (and probably eventually four) age structure. It doesn't help that it feels like the whole game needed another couple of months of concentrated work on the UI before release, I think a lot of people who might have given it time to adapt to the changes couldn't stomach the frankly shoddy UI. These things compound.
There are things I don't like that are never going to go away - metaprogression being front and centre - and others (bad UI) that I think are going to get dealt with eventually and have already improved a lot since launch.
I see it's tipped over to "Mostly Negative" in recent reviews too, which suggests the improvements they've made aren't winning people over.
If anyone wants to try something different from the lead designer of Civ IV, Old World is currently on 75% off. Although I understand that took more of a grand strategy direction.
If anyone wants to try something different from the lead designer of Civ IV, Old World is currently on 75% off. Although I understand that took more of a grand strategy direction.
I've now tried to play this multiple times (after each 'improvement' patch) and truely it is just horrendously bad in curreent state to the point I just have to put it back down agin after 30 minutes. There's no hook and I'm just not invested in carrying on at all (first time ever with a civ game) I've ended up playing Europe Universalis 4 instead. I may not have a clue what I'm doing in EU4 but it's a damn site more interesting and fun than civ 7 in current iteration
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I have played the Civ series for years, not picked the latest one up yet as everyone seems to be complaining about it... came in here today to see if its worth picking up yet, and this completely put me off
Its a shame really, but I feel like the latest iterations of the game have been slowly going down hill... really had an itch to play a Civ or Civ like game, its really a shame If you don't mind ancient / Roman theme give Old World a go. It's on sale on Steam at the moment. Definitely one of the better turn based strategy games. Failing that your choices are limited ... Civ 5 still the best of the actual Civ games, in my opinion. I also enjoy Age of Wonders 4 ... but it has a fantasy setting which may put some people off.I have played the Civ series for years, not picked the latest one up yet as everyone seems to be complaining about it... came in here today to see if its worth picking up yet, and this completely put me off
Have you tried Humankind? What do you think of it? I have it and like it but have played it a lot, I might give Old World a go actually, its made by some ex Fraxis devs right?
Yes, I've played Humankind ... it's flawed too, and was the "inspiration" for some of the mechanics in Civ 7. And yup, you're correct ... some of the Old Word devs were previously with Firaxis ... Soren Johnson the most notable of the bunch.
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