But you said "wildly" successful.. No, they haven't been that. I reiterate, the amount of unsold 5000 series cards and the price slashing is confirmation of that. If the cards were "wildly" successful, there would not be any stock so relatively soon after release or any ongoing price reductions. Like I said, the FOMO group have gone, now, so let's see what the next few months of normal buyers brings.
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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?
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I didn’t say wildly successful. I didn’t make the original claim, I just responded to your post.
Having product out of stock is not good for business, particularly on commodity products with shelf lives like GPUs that launch almost immediately after going into mass production.
You seem to think pre-scalped prices and low stock is successful? It isn’t.
Higher sales volume and higher average selling price is the measure of success. Nvidia seem to have ticked both boxes from the business perspective.
It’s 4 months post launch of the 5090, you’d expect them to be in stock for people to buy.
This is normal by not very historical measures, ‘back in the day’ (aka 20 series and previous) nVidia reference cards with NVidia coolers (which they now call founders editions) were widely available through the entire lifecycle of the card.
Your views are warped by COVID and short term supply train disruption and demand.
To reiterate, cards being in stock at RRP 4 months after launch was normal prior to 2020. This IS normal.
Having product out of stock is not good for business, particularly on commodity products with shelf lives like GPUs that launch almost immediately after going into mass production.
You seem to think pre-scalped prices and low stock is successful? It isn’t.
Higher sales volume and higher average selling price is the measure of success. Nvidia seem to have ticked both boxes from the business perspective.
It’s 4 months post launch of the 5090, you’d expect them to be in stock for people to buy.
This is normal by not very historical measures, ‘back in the day’ (aka 20 series and previous) nVidia reference cards with NVidia coolers (which they now call founders editions) were widely available through the entire lifecycle of the card.
Your views are warped by COVID and short term supply train disruption and demand.
To reiterate, cards being in stock at RRP 4 months after launch was normal prior to 2020. This IS normal.
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Are you talking about their deceptive slide?
Nvidia says it shipped twice as many 50-series GPUs as 40-Series at launch, but it's a misleading comparison
The problem is the first five weeks of Ada only had RTX 4090 cards available.
IF that assumption, that they have only sold twice as many 5090s/5080s and 5070s combined as 4090s last time out those numbers are terrible to be honest especially since if you want one of those cards to can buy one today pre scalped of course which wasn't always true with the 4000 series.Are you talking about their deceptive slide?
Nvidia says it shipped twice as many 50-series GPUs as 40-Series at launch, but it's a misleading comparison
The problem is the first five weeks of Ada only had RTX 4090 cards available.www.tomshardware.com
this has to be the most delusional slide out of Nvidia in their history of ridiculous claims, surely they don't believe this?Are you talking about their deceptive slide?
Nvidia says it shipped twice as many 50-series GPUs as 40-Series at launch, but it's a misleading comparison
The problem is the first five weeks of Ada only had RTX 4090 cards available.
Nvidia has really hit rock bottom, hopping AMD releases a top end card next round so that I can ditch nvidia all together.
Intel's market cap is 90b, hardly anything worth noticing these days. There are plenty of companies with vastly more resources that can easily pull it off.
By the time a company enters the AI market as a reseller the bubble will have burst. However, designing chips for their own AI use(if there is any money to be made) plus to capture the GPU market is a far less risky decision.
Coreteks has an upcoming video regarding this topic, competition on GPUs is coming sooner than people are expecting.
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Those sales are all with Nvidia Salesgen turned on.
This is the problem when one company gets such a huge share of the market, they start to think they can do and say whatever they like.
We've been there for a very long time unfortunately!
5090 hit £999.00?
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I've stuck by my word, I've bought a sapphire 9070 Nitro for comfortably under £600.
Should be a reasonable upgrade from my 5700xt
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It's interesting to wonder where this is all going. Gamers refusing to pay, but NVIDIA can get that money selling the silicon to AI. Are gamers shooting themselves in the foot? I think if ever there has been a need for intel to catch up, it's surely at it's highest level.
Gamers are shooting themselves on the foot for not overpaying for overpriced hardware?
Interesting (terrible) take.
We seemingly only need silly powerful hardware because massive developers seem to insist on releasing terrible quality games that run like ****.
Just look at the sorts of experiences you can get running on a Switch 2 or steam deck. You don’t need high end hardware to play good games.
Interesting (terrible) take.
We seemingly only need silly powerful hardware because massive developers seem to insist on releasing terrible quality games that run like ****.
Just look at the sorts of experiences you can get running on a Switch 2 or steam deck. You don’t need high end hardware to play good games.
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I don't think the gamers are shooting themselves in the foot, it's just natural process. They simply can't compete with margins obtainable from AI craze, where 1000% mark up is seen as something good (obviously for Nvidia and shareholders only).
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I suppose.
Then I have reached my "natural" limit!!
The 5000 series will be the first time I have not upgraded. And I have no intention to upgrade in the near future, either. At these prices, it's a once in ten years thing now!!!!
Highlighting the key part. Some studios seem to install UE5 tools, watch a 30min tutorial on Youtube, then push out the most unoptimised mess possible.
We will probably see people upgrade less frequently if prices keep going up.
I absolutely understand. The higher end GPUs you are on, the more problematic it becomes. Above midrange, the performance gains aren't matching the extra money needed to be spent.
I did upgrade this gen but only because I was on 3070 and managed to find decent 9070 for less than £500. Sold 3070 for £225 net so the update cost me 265, I can live with it.
It isn't like I can't afford any GPU, I just won't spend above certain amount on my entertainment.
The cost of consoles always brings me some reality check.