Three over 100mph speeding Essex drivers caught in an hour
Speed checks on the A12 on Friday capture a total of 180 offences in a 60-minute period, force says.
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Why do people think it acceptable to break the Speed Limit.
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So your first image is nullified by your second.
Firstly, it supports my assertion that the OP's claimed 40% figure is false. Secondly it places driving too fast for conditions is a higher contributing factor. It also shows, given the fact that they're separated categories, that whilst going too fast the driver wasn't necessarily speeding.
Absolutely this. At an indicated 75 (probably a smidge over an actual 70) you are going quicker than 80 or 90% of cars on the motorway these days.
Most of the time you are lucky to be able to do that speed outside the dead of night or the crack of dawn because there will be traffic lowering the natural cruising speed.
Standard example of a four lane motorway setup during peak times;
Lane 1 - Truck at 56 mph
Lane 2 - Truck at 56.3 mph
Lane 3 - Car / Van overtaking trucks at 60-65 mph
Lane 4 - Cars / Vans overtaking lane 3 at 65-70 mph
...and then every so often some ding-dong carving through all four lanes weaving into every non existent gap like he's playing Grand Theft Auto at 80+ mph.
These days I just shove the ACC on and what will be will be in terms of my actual speed.
Three over 100mph speeding Essex drivers caught in an hour
Speed checks on the A12 on Friday capture a total of 180 offences in a 60-minute period, force says.
Amateurs....
Get them up to the Midlands and you'll see 10x that easily.
Because it's lazy policing.
Speeding - Fixed penalty notice
Dangerous driving - Effort to prove, time in court
Pads the figures and an excuse for extra funding.
Have you noticed forces claim they don't have money and resources but they've got brand new camera-vans......
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How about 90mph over the speed limit, it was an empty road after all...
www.theguardian.com
Andrew Tate to appear in court for allegedly driving 90mph over limit in Romania
Self-styled ‘misogynist influencer’ claims police radar gun must have been ‘calibrated incorrectly’ and says he cannot afford £300 fine
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How about 90mph over the speed limit, it was an empty road after all...
Andrew Tate to appear in court for allegedly driving 90mph over limit in Romania
Self-styled ‘misogynist influencer’ claims police radar gun must have been ‘calibrated incorrectly’ and says he cannot afford £300 fine
In Romania. I don't think cross-border fines are back yet since living the EU.
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I feel real safe now when I'm driving at the limit in a 20 zone and the person behind me is so close that I cant see their headlights. Even better when there's a small decline and they cant manage their speed and they get even closer to me and then they beep me like its my fault.
When they're so close sometimes I have to flip the rear view mirror as with some cars its like a camera flash going off every few seconds... bonus points when they do this while constantly flicking their main beams of and on.
While the above is going on sometimes I'll pull over (I've been passed when there's traffic going 20 on the opposite side of the road or people do a multi car pass) they pass me racing into the distance and then I'll pull up beside them at the red lights and wonder why they endanger themselves and me but hey gotta go fast.
Meanwhile you read threads like these and any opposition speed limits is met with you just want to speed. No I just want to drive safely but its clear these 20 limits make it a lot more unsafe for me.
When they're so close sometimes I have to flip the rear view mirror as with some cars its like a camera flash going off every few seconds... bonus points when they do this while constantly flicking their main beams of and on.
While the above is going on sometimes I'll pull over (I've been passed when there's traffic going 20 on the opposite side of the road or people do a multi car pass) they pass me racing into the distance and then I'll pull up beside them at the red lights and wonder why they endanger themselves and me but hey gotta go fast.
Meanwhile you read threads like these and any opposition speed limits is met with you just want to speed. No I just want to drive safely but its clear these 20 limits make it a lot more unsafe for me.
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They are t#### regardless of the speeding.
If you look up to those brothers then your head needs a wobble
I really hate the use of 20 limits outside of limited use to highlight a specific hazard and maybe in some contained residential areas. Most of the facts and figures used to justify them are manipulated, or don't stack up in a meaningful way in the real world vs on paper and/or lab conditions and/or don't take into account how they fit into the wider area i.e. trying to encourage cycling when cyclists still have to navigate significant hazards outside of the 20 zone to actually do their entire journey just results in an increase in serious and fatal incidents involving cyclists in the longer run if it does work to increase the number of people cycling.
On the flip side I do think new cars should have speed awareness systems as standard, but not ones which interfere with the vehicle operation. I do wonder if it would have much impact on people's approach if say the speedometer had a coloured outline which changed colour i.e. if approaching a common accident hotspot, school zone, etc. as well as speed vs current limit.
I thought that was already a requirement for new cars?
My one is pretty subtle with the current speed limit graphic getting bigger and the digits flashing red for a few seconds when you exceed the limit.
Last time I looked it was a fairly vague requirement but with plans to strengthen it later - where I'm not a fan of some of the ideas they are talking about. I do think in this day and age with the technology available and modern usage of the roads some type of awareness system when it comes to hazards (and speed) would be a good idea, some of that can be done through things like Waze but I'd prefer something a bit more comprehensive / more officially supported.
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Yes, I honestly couldn't care less if it doesn't affect me or anyone else. There are of course more opportunities for a cyclist to safely run a red light than there is a double decker bus but crack on, I won't be the one pointing at a dash cam and shouting "GOT YOU ON CAMRUH!!11!!!".
I think a more general issue is driving standards, rather than speed specifically. A lot of licence holders would fail a UK test if randomly selected. I don't think it's "acceptable" as OP mentions, rather it's simply a risk some are willing to take. I don't condone it but I am against the money making scheming that it has become to rip motorists off for doing 57mph in a SPECs 50mph zone, which used to be a 70mph etc. No I don't think punishments should be more severe for that kind of thing where it's simple speeding offenses. I also feel the speed limits are outdated for motorway and should have been reviewed properly a long time ago, but that debate rages on and it never gets addressed because they look at stats, and stats say we basically have a shedload of accidents in the UK on motorways. This comes back to driving standards rather than speed.
The problem there is you're leaving it down to the individual to judge whether it affects anyone else. The standard of driving in this country (and people's judgement in general) leads me to believe that is a terrible, terrible idea, so the safest option for everyone is the status quo, where red = stop.
Let's put it this way, if all drivers were competent and had perfect judgement and decision making abilities, we wouldn't need speed limits, traffic lights, etc. because people would be able drive safely and at an appropriate speed without needing the law to tell them to do so.
I totally agree, I'm not saying that red lights shouldn't exist. What I'm saying is that if I see somebody run a red light / speed / do something against the law but not cause an issue for anyone else it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
The policeman with a speed gun or mobile camera van is a dying breed though. Rare to see them these days. It's all about the fixed cameras and average speed checks. They print money. The police are already free to tackle other things in that regard. You know, like responding to facebook posts that are offensive.
You also rarely even see traffic police driving around. Back in the day, boy racers used to be out and about town and there would always be police cars out driving about to help combat it. These days you barely see any marked cars.