** The Official WWDC 2025 thread - Keynote 9th June at 18:00 BST **

I'm not a fan of the new design tbh. It feels like a decades old skin applied to an entry level Android phone. One of the things I used to love about Apple design is that it looked clean and restrained. This now looks busy and fussy.

Hopefully they dial it back before release. I don't think I'll drop Apple but god this doesn't feel like an improvement at all.
 
I don't like this new UI and "liquid glass", it is mostly a graphical hit for a visual element that adds nothing to the productivity. It will simply make everything run slower, make the battery life shorter and the phone ages faster.
 
Not a fan of this glass stuff. Makes things harder to read and doesn't even look as nice as people pretend it does.

Saying that, the updates to iPadOS is very interesting, it might finally be close enough to MacOS to swap over completely, but I still doubt it.
 
Apple is taking the hits as of late isn’t it!

Apple Intelligence not being up to scratch, all the App Store shenanigans, the mixed feelings about the 26 update.

First time in a long time where the discussion (online anyway) is very low on Apple.
 
Mesai said:
Apple's software division feels so underwhelming relative to what its hardware division has accomplished.
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Agree, the hardware is capable of so much more but the software is very limiting.

Its like owning a Ferrari and only being allowed to drive at 30mph!
 
Capitano said:
Agree, the hardware is capable of so much more but the software is very limiting.

Its like owning a Ferrari and only being allowed to drive at 30mph!
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M4 in an iPad is hilarious, especially when the software is barely more than what iOS offers.

WWDC always makes me wonder how many highly paid and skilled people they have working on OS theming and emojis.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
To be fair to the SW folks, they are having to work on 4 parallel OS streams that need to play nicely together.
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I can appreciate the OS-level work as that props up a lot of the ecosystem benefits, along with maximising the hardware potential.

UI refreshes, emojis, etc. are whatever; I'm sure people care, but always feels like a filler episode when half of the presentation is about basic visual changes yet Siri is on the same level as one of those lights that go on or off when you clap your hands.
 
Most of it reminds me of those people who do slide decks with transitions and animations on everything. And I don’t mean the interesting kind.

What I’ve seen of early adopter videos is that every icon and transition is very ‘bouncy’ and there’s lots of visual clutter where icons will have lines through them due to the background images etc. It’s amazing how they think this is innovative in 2025.

Hopefully (praying) it gets better over time.
 
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Watched a few of the other actual WWDC content, good to see Containers coming natively, something that I will actively use.
 
I assume one of the OS platforms they have is already at version 25? Otherwise it really irks me that they didn't align to the year number and start with xOS 25.
 
Yeah there's some utterly bonkers decisions on display at WWDC25. Cram Apple Irrelevance into absolutely everything - which is purely a shareholder appeasement effort. The market wants AI (apparently) so Apple have to be seen to be hocking it at every opportunity, thank the ghost of Jobs I can combine an eggplant emoji with an avocado emoji thanks to the power of AI!


Oh how I wish for...

Windows ARM BootCamp - this would put a dink in the growing market for ARM based laptops running Windows, seems like a good market share opportunity. If they got out in front of the game.

iOS Bluetooth Codec Support beyond AAC/SBC, it's 2025 - Lossless streaming over Bluetooth has been on Android for donkey's years and the only pair of headphones that comes close to this are the AirPods Pro 2.

Bluetooth 5.2 bought LC3 so no need for proprietary codec likes LDAC or AptX and most modern Apple devices support this, therefore the only reason I can see why they haven't done this is because they'd potentually lose that segment... not that Airpod Pros aren't ubiquitous already.


Surely AI can help Apple Developers do these "simple" things in no time at all and help open up new revenue opporunities for shareholders. :D
 
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