Air India Crash

Dis86 said:
What, they've just tried to launch from halfway down the runway?
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Possibly but I've also read FR24 coverage of the backtrack area is patchy. however the plane was airborne and clearly able to climb a bit after takeoff. People are also speculating an error of flaps up instead of gear up after takeoff leading to the stall. Of course its all just speculation right now.
 
Tragic. Will damage either Boeing more or Air India.

From gist of it, looks like human error? Kind of hope so. Because last thing we need is more safety concerns.
 
I live in Ahmedabad. According to my friends who live on that side of the city, it landed on a hospital.

Rumour is the ex CM of Gujarat was on the flight......

*EDIT*..... confirmed Vijay Rupani was on it......which with the recent Pakistan tensions put a whole new spin on it.
 
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The flaps were fully retracted and the landing gear was down, at this point in the flight the opposite should have been the case....
 
Rifte said:
I live in Ahmedabad. According to my friends who live on that side of the city, it landed on a hospital.

Rumour is the ex CM of Gujarat was on the flight......

*EDIT*..... confirmed Vijay Rupani was on it......which with the recent Pakistan tensions put a whole new spin on it.
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BBC news just said similar:

"A senior police officer in Ahmedabad tells ANI news agency that the London-bound plane crashed into a doctors' hostel.
He says police, firefighters and other civic workers reached the spot within minutes. Rescue operations are still under way."
 
Albaba said:
The flaps were fully retracted and the landing gear was down, at this point in the flight the opposite should have been the case....
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They're not. I've watched a slightly clearer video of the crash, and you make out flap deployment. You can also hear (and just about make out a few pixels of) the RAT deployed.
 
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Albaba said:
Ah OK hadn't seen a clearer video. It's also possible the landing gear was redeployed as it was coming down
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Landing gear was very likely never retracted, they barely reached a few hundred feet up. (I know they tend to retract on positive climb, but they've also put in a mayday call so it looks like something has gone wrong very, very soon after getting airborne.)
 
squerble said:
They're not. I've watched a slightly clearer video of the crash, and you make out flap deployment. You can also hear (and just about make out a few pixels of) the RAT deployed.
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There’s no obvious signs of engine damage or smoke which I would expect from brief strikes taking them both out - premature flap retraction would seem to be depressingly plausible at this early stage.

If it is engine related (which would explain the RAT deployment if accurate) then fuel starvation would seem more likely as a cause to lose them both.
 
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