Air India Crash
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At 12:05 there’s a comparison of a fly past with a known RAT deployment and the accident video. They do sound very similar, along with a lack of audible engine thrust which should be near maximum power.
Also of note is the landing gear truck in the angled position, meaning it was never attempted to be raised.
Also of note is the landing gear truck in the angled position, meaning it was never attempted to be raised.
Just watched the airport's cctv footage. The plane takes off and does start climbing for several seconds and it looks fine and then suddenly it just starts falling out the sky with the nose still up trying to climb, as if both engines just lost all power
there is this tweet of a passenger from this plane who was on earlier flight the same day and he claims when he flew out there was a lot of electronic issues on board like lights coming on and off or refusing to turn on, screens not working etc
there is this tweet of a passenger from this plane who was on earlier flight the same day and he claims when he flew out there was a lot of electronic issues on board like lights coming on and off or refusing to turn on, screens not working etc
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I remember the subject of gear being raised discussed in regards to another incident: raising the gear means that the gear doors open and this actually increases drag in the short term. Which is not good. So keeping the gear down can make sense. Perhaps one of the resident pilots can elaborate?
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I watched that earlier. It was pretty eerie and serene in the way it just kind of rose as normal and then slowly descended and then smoke.
The BBC are saying that Lammy chaired a COBRA meeting because of this. Sorry, but this incident isn't that important.
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You don't think 50+ British nationals dying is important? The worst loss of life for Britain in an air incident since September 11th 2001.
Cobra meetings are convened for a variety of reasons one being "during overseas events with major implications for the UK" for which I think an air crash killing 50+ British people qualifies.
What are the major implications it will have on the country?
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You don't think they had to rule out terrorism in the first few hours?
Gov departments needing to mobilise in response to aid families, liaise with Indian authorities, etc.
Has there even been the slightest hint? A mayday call was made indicating an issue with the plane prior to the crash. As I pointed out earlier in the thread the Indian authorities made no attempt to secure the crash site so even they weren't concerned. Flights resumed from the airport in short order.
That's not a major implication. In fact, on the UK as a whole its literally nothing. Thats what ambassadorial teams already exist for.
Yorkshire was placed in drought status today and there was no cobra meeting, that has far greater implications for the UK
It's reasonably major as it potentially involves multiple distinct parts of the government, several cabinet level officials and there will always be questions about could it be terror related, or could it impact the UK aviation sector.
IIRC there have been COBRA meetings over other transport incidents in the past, as it's basically meeting of senior officials (usually in a specific room which is how it got the name), some of which were a lot less complicated than this (the fact this happened in another country complicates things a lot).
Given there are potentially hundreds of people in the UK affected, many of whom might need to go over the India to deal with the deaths of relatives (and possibly bring bodies back) it's a fairly complicated thing to deal with on this end, that could involve a lot of Police forces (to give the death notifications), visas, repatriation of the bodies (either commercial flights, or possibly a charter) etc.
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Again...not even the slightest hint of terrorism. One of the earliest points was mayday call.
Boeing have made no indication of groundings, I don't even think any Indian airlines have. Has there actually been any effect on the UK aviation industry at all?
Was there a cobra meeting after the Costa Concordia sank? Similar number of brits on board her.
Brits die abroad every day, typically 15 - 20. It's not an unusual occurrence.
I'd also hazard a lot of the British dead are dual citizens who may well be workers over here and won't be repatriated at all, if any body remains it would stay in India.
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Mr. Empathy here.
I'll repeat again, the biggest loss of British life in an air crash for 24 years.
Air India should probably be paying his bills for the rest of his life. They are owned by Tata right they have the money.That survivor should probably buy themselves an Euromillions ticket for today's draw, as they are very lucky.
Mr doesn't understand the difference between personal tragedy and national impact.