17 years since my last build, advice please

[koolpc]

I guess AMD are not worth considering?

 

[rare]

I would buy a 265k over a 14900k for non gaming tasks for sure. It’s way more efficient, it’s not prone to all the 13/14th gen issues. It’s also sensible value. I wouldn’t use an Aerocool PSU if it was given to me for free, let alone in a system you want to keep for many many years. That Phanteks 750 is a much better unit.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I guess AMD are not worth considering?

I'd consider AMD, over the decades I've swapped between them and others.

 

[Gray2233]

I guess AMD are not worth considering?

Not given how infrequently he upgrades and his use case, AMD doesn't really have anything at the price point that competes with the 265K for productivity focused and no gaming.

 

[tamzzy]

I guess AMD are not worth considering?

not for OP's use case scenario, intel better value in this case
will need at least a 7900x/9900x to match the productivity performance of the 265k

 

[SexyGreyFox]

It's way past the bedtime for a pensioner so I'll look at all this when I get up at 6am to potter around in my man shed.

I really appreciate all the advice.

 

[koolpc]

It's way past the bedtime for a pensioner so I'll look at all this when I get up at 6am to potter around in my man shed.

I really appreciate all the advice.

Remember to soak your teeth before you go to bed!!

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I can't get to sleep and Mrs Sexy sent me back downstairs.
New list and I presume I need thermal paste?
I want to keep the case as small as possible and I want a 5.25" external slot.
Do I really need a PA120 for CPU cooling or can something smaller be OK if I'm not overclocking?
Also is the Gigabyte OK, my last Gigabyte is still going after 17 years?
All this stuff is in stock, how long do you have to wait for Pre-order?


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Kolink KLM-003 Micro-ATX Case - Black (SKU: CA-054-KK) = £27.95
• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 7 265K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03111) = £289.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-05114) = £79.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B860M EAGLE (LGA 1851) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-04116) = £130.00
• 1 x Intel Motherboard Master Key - Star Wars Outlaws (SKU: DIG-INT-04686) = £0.00
• 1 x Crucial T500 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01089) = £76.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99
• 1 x Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g) (SKU: TH-01B-AR) = £4.99
• 1 x Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99

Total: £729.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Gray2233]

I can't get to sleep and Mrs Sexy sent me back downstairs.
New list and I presume I need thermal paste?
I want to keep the case as small as possible and I want a 5.25" external slot.
Do I really need a PA120 for CPU cooling or can something smaller be OK if I'm not overclocking?
Also is the Gigabyte OK, my last Gigabyte is still going after 17 years?
All this stuff is in stock, how long do you have to wait for Pre-order?


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Kolink KLM-003 Micro-ATX Case - Black (SKU: CA-054-KK) = £27.95
• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 7 265K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03111) = £289.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-05114) = £79.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B860M EAGLE (LGA 1851) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-04116) = £130.00
• 1 x Intel Motherboard Master Key - Star Wars Outlaws (SKU: DIG-INT-04686) = £0.00
• 1 x Crucial T500 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01089) = £76.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99
• 1 x Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g) (SKU: TH-01B-AR) = £4.99
• 1 x Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99

Total: £729.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

I cannot speak for the motherboard.

The case is very poor value, I understand you want an understated black box but the airflow is going to be awful and cooling can be important. I'm not even sure at first glance it would fit the PA120, and for reference in terms of price/performance it's more or less the best thing on the market right now and beats out HSF's 3-5 times its value. Also, you do not need to buy a tube of paste as the Thermalright comes with a tube of its own which is about on par with MX4 and good for 3-4 applications.

I'd not personally touch Aerocool PSU's, they once in a blue moon launch a good unit but they're very much more miss than hit to the point they make Kolink power supplies look good.

If you really, really don't want a window on the case you can buy black wraps you could apply to the Kolink Duo case mentioned by @tamzzy, it's a much better purchase and you can turn off the lights.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

What about these PSU's, any good?
That Phantek is not in stock and no idea when it would come, I know the other Phantek is £105 but I wasn't expecting to pay that much.
I'll take on what you say about the case.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Seasonic G12 GM-850 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-SSC-03183) = £99.95
• 1 x Seasonic Core GX-650-V2 ATX3.1 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: POW-SSC-03649) = £99.94
• 1 x be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W ATX 3.0 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-14S-BQ) = £99.95

 

[tamzzy]

hat Phantek is not in stock and no idea when it would come, I know the other Phantek is £105 but I wasn't expecting to pay that much.

there's literally a fiver difference between the phanteks 850w and the ones you listed.
if you're fine to wait, then wait for the 750w, it's the best value. if you don't want to wait then stump up the fiver

 

[Tetras]

These are some cases I often spec for quiet/black builds.

I've never looked at be quiet much, but they also do some.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Lian Li Lancool 216 Mid-tower PC case - Black (SKU: CA-7BG-LL) = £85.99
• 1 x Kolink Tranquility Silent Midi Tower Case - Black Noise Dampened (SKU: CA-03W-KK) = £62.99
• 1 x Phanteks XT Silent ATX Case Closed Panel Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-03106) = £74.99
• 1 x be quiet! PURE BASE 501 Airflow Black Mid Tower Case (SKU: CAS-BEQ-03814) = £79.99

Total: £303.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

I want to keep the case as small as possible and I want a 5.25" external slot.

Tricky nowadays, I believe the Pop cases have one in the bottom and they do a side panel version, but be careful because there's a number of variants. An external drive (via USB) gives you many more options.

Do I really need a PA120 for CPU cooling or can something smaller be OK if I'm not overclocking?

I would strongly recommend you do not downgrade the cooler. The single fan coolers are fine for lower-end i3/i5 CPUs, but this CPU can use a lot of power when under heavy load. The peerless assassin might already need a bit of tweaking for best results.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Seasonic G12 GM-850 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-SSC-03183) = £99.95
• 1 x Seasonic Core GX-650-V2 ATX3.1 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: POW-SSC-03649) = £99.94
• 1 x be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W ATX 3.0 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-14S-BQ) = £99.95

The first one is built by Helly and it isn't bad, but definitely built to a budget.

The second one is better than the G12 GM, but the latest Focus didn't review that well on hwbusters (many niggles), so I'm not that keen even though they're better equipped than a lot of PSUs.

The be quiet is the highest tier unit and longest warranty (7 on the Core, versus 10 on the 12M), but they don't use what I'd consider "top notch" components even though they're rated A-tier on SPL's tier list.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

How is this list?
Went for a better Kolink case but not the Observatory.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 7 265K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03111) = £289.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-05114) = £79.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B860M EAGLE (LGA 1851) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-04116) = £130.00
• 1 x Intel Motherboard Master Key - Star Wars Outlaws (SKU: DIG-INT-04686) = £0.00
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99
• 1 x Kolink Unity Meshbay Performance Midi Tower Case - Black Mesh (SKU: CA-081-KK) = £42.95
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.98
• 1 x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01090) = £128.99

Total: £818.88 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

 

[tamzzy]

looks good. the only thing i'd want to know is if you need more than 32gb for your photo/video work.
64gb may not be a bad idea if you have the budget for it, and if you already forsee needing more than 32gb in the not too distant future
ddr5 don't work (as) well with 4 sticks, so you're better off sticking with 2 sticks of ram instead

 

[SexyGreyFox]

looks good. the only thing i'd want to know is if you need more than 32gb for your photo/video work.
64gb may not be a bad idea if you have the budget for it, and if you already forsee needing more than 32gb in the not too distant future
ddr5 don't work (as) well with 4 sticks, so you're better off sticking with 2 sticks of ram instead

I suppose I could get it up to near 4 weeks State Pension money.
When Mrs Sexy asked how much I said it was less than 4 weeks

 

[tamzzy]

did you tell her about the 25% tax free lump-sum draw down from your NHS DB pension?

 

[SexyGreyFox]

did you tell her about the 25% tax free lump-sum draw down from your NHS DB pension?

She deals with all the money so she knows every penny.
She gets hers in August.

 

[tamzzy]

She deals with all the money so she knows every penny.

eeeeek.

 

[BUDFORCE]

@SexyGreyFox

We thought you were dead.

Thread 'SexyGreyFox (is alive and well [and living in Droitwich])' https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...ve-and-well-and-living-in-droitwich.19002107/

 

[SexyGreyFox]

OK one last daft question, before I buy, will I notice a significant improvement over my current system?

CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz 47 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z77X-D3H (Intel Core i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz) 28 °C
Graphics
BenQ GW2760HS (1920x1080@60Hz)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 (Gigabyte)
Storage
232GB Samsung SSD 750 EVO 250GB (SATA (SSD)) 36 °C

Will OCUK Forums load in faster and Excel come up quicker?
Oh and will my video and audio editing speeds be improved massively?