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Ah that looks awesome! Don't often see the red. Makes a nice change from all the grey cars.
Looks like you went for the pro pack, those rear lights look great. What else did you spec?
Thanks, it has the exact same spec as this car https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202504151373569?quoteref=dce8d112-50d5-454e-b1bd-ef396d501c45 including the interior only I paid less and it is a Oct 2024 first reg. Those are the shadowline laser rearlights so it also has the adaptive matrix headlamps as well
I tend to go for something different colour wise and I think the combination of red with the black exterior trim somewhat disguises that grill.
In total new that is a £72k car..
 
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Charged my R5 for the first time today, went to a Sainsbury's nearby that has a row of Smart Charge chargers near the entrance. Only one other car there charging so very easy to get a space, and equally easy to get it started using my Octoverse card. It was on 39% and had finished before I was anywhere near the checkout. I really like these Kempower chargers too, I'd heard good things about them and I can see why, being able to monitor the charge from my phone was neat and it gives you a graph of the charging speed too. Pretty good speeds considering the battery wouldn't have had time to precondition, though I'd imagine the warm weather helps.

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It’s surprising how few people do their homework on such potentially non trivial matters. I was looking at an MG4 until I saw it only charged at 3.7 kWh on a lot of destination AC chargers. Hotels and such. Also even 22kWh chargers max out at 6.7kWh instead of 11kWh. While that was not the only reason I rejected one (offset steering wheel), it would have been enough for me to reject.

I would do fairly frequent driving holidays to various parts of Ireland and have in many of these only used destination chargers. The difference between getting 10kWh vs 30kWh while doing tourist stuff for 3 hours is substantial.
It's something I hadn't even considered and hadn't seen mentioned in any of the reviews I'd watched/read.

I like to think I'm generally on the ball with stuff like this but just assumed that these chargers that are everywhere would charge a car at the stated rate regardless so it must catch a lot of people out.

Like I said though for my usage it's not really a problem we use the wife's car for family day out/holiday duty, just a bit of a surprise.
 
It's something I hadn't even considered and hadn't seen mentioned in any of the reviews I'd watched/read.

I like to think I'm generally on the ball with stuff like this but just assumed that these chargers that are everywhere would charge a car at the stated rate regardless so it must catch a lot of people out.

Like I said though for my usage it's not really a problem we use the wife's car for family day out/holiday duty, just a bit of a surprise.

Apologies if my post comes across as a dig. I totally get that my use case is different from other owners. I also roll my eyes at the kind of EVangilists who assume anyone looking for an EV will only be interested in efficiency and charging speed.

I trawled EVDB for such things as AC charging times because my yearly use cases tends to include driving holidays around Ireland at 500 - 600 miles. I tend to stick to destination chargers on these trips and the difference between getting 13ish vs 40ish kWh in 4 hours of charging would be a significant impact on EV suitability.

I know it’s maybe 2 times a year and seems trivial, but for me it’s more important than rapid charging speeds.

Edit: Your point about EV reviews is one of my bugbears with them. You get to zero info about how the app works, how home charging works, how the Bluetooth phone integration works (will it even allow multiple phones). So many of them don’t even quote anything other than the WLTP range numbers. They are only useful for how a car looks.
 
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First drive into the office this morning, hooked it up to one of the 11kWh chargers just to see how it all works.

Came back an hour later and it had added...2.4kWh. Seems it doesn't quite work how I assumed :cry:

What did you end up getting?
 
MG4 if I recall correctly? Nice little EVs for the price to be fair and can be picked up at a nice price used.
 
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Yes, the original factory ones on ‘older’ cars wear out very quickly. Not so much of an issue on newer cars which have a revised part.

@booyaka - surely you have another year on the factory warranty?

yeah - still got another year but I knew it would fail MOT as the squeaking from the front end was the ball joints before it got fixed.

The Cleevley inspection was just to highlight the issues I knew were there but get a solid report from them to then present to Tesla.

I drove the new Y but since I just put 4 tyres on Y, plus MOT, I'll keep it at least another year
 
Apologies if my post comes across as a dig. I totally get that my use case is different from other owners. I also roll my eyes at the kind of EVangilists who assume anyone looking for an EV will only be interested in efficiency and charging speed.

I trawled EVDB for such things as AC charging times because my yearly use cases tends to include driving holidays around Ireland at 500 - 600 miles. I tend to stick to destination chargers on these trips and the difference between getting 13ish vs 40ish kWh in 4 hours of charging would be a significant impact on EV suitability.

I know it’s maybe 2 times a year and seems trivial, but for me it’s more important than rapid charging speeds.

Edit: Your point about EV reviews is one of my bugbears with them. You get to zero info about how the app works, how home charging works, how the Bluetooth phone integration works (will it even allow multiple phones). So many of them don’t even quote anything other than the WLTP range numbers. They are only useful for how a car looks.

Thinking about I’d never thought about the AC charging side of things till I read these posts - I just assumed that any public charging I’d do would be DC if I was that desperate to need it. Every days a school day!
 
AC/DC charging rates have become more important with the proliferation of large battery 16/20 phev's like discussed in other thread, where faster recharge on those is useful,
within battery C-rate; the guy who got the mercedes phev a while back in this thread, thought he payed extra for the faster 22kw A/C option, isn't it a bmw option too.
(wasn't it kia or hyundai who innovatively use the motor invertor electronics to get 3phase for 22kw at low cost, or maybe that was v2l )

- is there a one stop ev database with all this kind of info ?
 
AC/DC charging rates have become more important with the proliferation of large battery 16/20 phev's like discussed in other thread, where faster recharge on those is useful
Barely, at least as far as the UK goes, because most places you'll find such chargers will be expensive enough per kWh you're probably better off using petrol anyway.

- is there a one stop ev database with all this kind of info ?

www.ev-database.org funnily enough
 
Finally joined the EV club (again) today.
We are going down to one car in the house not counting my daughters Twingo. Mrs's lease Qashqai goes back next month and she has the SUV affliction so wasn't keen to make do with the Passat which has been trusted friend for the last 3.5 years. Been considering Q4, Enyaq, Ix3 but ended up picking up an ID.4. To be honest I had been slightly put off by a lot of the negative press around the VW EVs but I think it's going to be fine. The main thing is that she likes it, we reduce our running costs and have something that the kids don't complain about making them feel sick.

Have only driven it back from the garage but it's pretty impressive and my only negative would be that it's got 20" wheels and you feel every bump! on crappy surfaces. Part of that is SUV and part the wheels. The PAssat was quite a comfortable old barge.

Have spent a bit of time trying to set it all up including the VW Apps and Octopus Intelligent Go. I'll see if it's worked in the morning! Any tips welcomed.
 
AC/DC charging rates have become more important with the proliferation of large battery 16/20 phev's like discussed in other thread, where faster recharge on those is useful,
within battery C-rate; the guy who got the mercedes phev a while back in this thread, thought he payed extra for the faster 22kw A/C option, isn't it a bmw option too.
(wasn't it kia or hyundai who innovatively use the motor invertor electronics to get 3phase for 22kw at low cost, or maybe that was v2l )

- is there a one stop ev database with all this kind of info ?
C rate isn’t even a topic for DC charging

22kW over 11kW need upgraded electronics. It’s not just a software thing ..
 
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