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This story is mental, should have been expelled and deported.
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You said it was because your ABBA tribute band were world-touring IKEA branches...Why do you think i had to move to Sweden?
Like kick boxing, juditsu, karate, archery and fencing so she can kick the **** out of him, use him for target practise then accidently chop his **** off if he breaks into her room again.
If she was my daughter I would be fitting one of those Yale battery operated wireless alarms on her door and a dead bolt on the inside so no one can come in uninvited because they ****** up the access cards.
Some people seem to be forgetting that she would only be about 18, this is probably her first time living away from home and experiencing something like this could cause some people to dropout of uni.
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You really think he's going to do it again?
Given that she wasn't even present last time, anything she does to him subsequently is assault at the very least, so not helpful. At least going Emo, ranting and protesting about society, or following the various Alt trends is unlikely to get her in trouble with the law.
You wouldn't sue the Uni, or the facilities management company, or their security sub-contractor, and force them to make the necessary improvements at their own cost?
Can you guarantee that he won't?
If someone breaks into your home while you are there you are entitled to use reasonable force to protect yourself. The chopping his **** off and using him for target practise was in jest you can't do that unless the intruder is armed.*
*Edit: I'm not suggesting that you keep hiting them with your golf club when they have been disarmed or are trying to flee because at that point they aren't a threat and it wouldn't be resonable force.
If someone runs at an armed police officer with an axe they are going to shoot him; so if someone with an axe breaks into your home and you injure them it would probably be seen as reasonable force unless you used an illegally held weapon.
You would wait 18 months for it to go to trial?
By the time the court case was over she would have finished uni and he would have left the country?
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He's far less likely to than previously.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but she wasn't there last time he went in, and given the nature of the crime he's very unlikely to reattempt it while she's there subsequently.
So the only way she could apply any such training would be to go after the guy, making it assault.
I don't think you'd be allowed to alter university property without action being taken against you...
Besides, it probably wouldn't need a trial. Your solicitor would talk with theirs and you'd settle out of court, to save on costs and time.
You'd have a strong case for just going direct to the Uni and they'd implement the necessary changes anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of other students and parents who'd back you up with petitions of thier own. The whole thing could easily be done and dusted within a month.
How do you know this is the first time he has done it, he could have done it multiple times in his own country.
He could end up being a copy cat of this guy:
PhD student Zhenhao Zou, who raped 10 women, jailed for 24 years
Zhenhao Zou, who drugged and raped women in London and China, has been called "one of the most prolific predators" in the UK.
www.bbc.co.uk
Are you his uni room mate or something why are you defending his actions?
So you think every person that learns a martial art, boxing or takes a self denfence class is going to assault someone?
What about the thousands of UK soldiers and TA's that are trained to kill do you think they come home and start taking people out?
Its very odd that you don't want women to be able to fend off men that attack them or participate in an activity that would give them confidence, increase their fitness and make them safer.
Alter what its a few screws for gods sake you tell me the students never fit anything to the wall?
At worst its 10 seconds with a tube of pre mixed filler and a dab of emulsion when she leaves.
Now you want to start a petition instead of spending £100 and 30 mins to fit a sensor and bolt on her door.
Why are you so against her feeling safe now instead of in a few months time when the uni actually fix the problem.
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What makes you think I'm defending him, exactly...?
If you've been caught for an offence, which is both embarassing and upsets most of the world around you, you're far less likely to repeat that offence.
If you are not under immediate threat, then going after someone to beat them up is considered assault.
Since the victim was seemingly not present during the offence, and presumably would not be if he chose to reoffend based on his current MO, then she would still not be under threat.
Part of that training (not that we're all SAS level Krav Maga walking weapons, anyway) is understanding when such a response is justified, and knowing when it most certainly is not.
Who has been attacked, here??!!
A guy used a security flaw to enter an empty room and fap over a teddy bear. It's most likely burglary, not assault.
It's a key-card system, presumably with a master key so someone can still enter in case of an emergency.
You mean why do I not share the same knee-jerk bloodlust perspective as you...?
This is getting boring
Their system is compromised because the uni has used incompetent staff which have either configured the security groups incorrectly or assigned the user to the wrong group.
There’s simply no reason for student gym keys to open the dorm rooms of other students.
Even if they fire the staff for gross misconduct which is unlikely given they probably can’t even tell who issued the card its impossible to guarantee someone won’t **** up again.
A simple, cheap and quick to implement solution is to have a method of securing the door from the inside when the room is occupied.
So not harrassment, not stalking and not a sexual offence he was just in there to steal a cup of sugar and accidently ****** over her teddy when he saw her gaming PC.
Read my earlier posts again I said:
"if he breaks into her room again"
"you are entitled to use reasonable force to protect yourself"
"I'm not suggesting that you keep hiting them with your golf club when they have been disarmed or are trying to flee because at that point they aren't a threat and it wouldn't be resonable force"
And yes I think he could offend again and the next time the room might not be empty.
I've managed door access systems there isn’t a “master key” you add the users, create the security groups for the different areas, set restrictions such as operating hours then link the card to the user when you print it.
Their system is compromised because the uni has used incompetent staff which have either configured the security groups incorrectly or assigned the user to the wrong group.
There’s simply no reason for student gym keys to open the dorm rooms of other students.
Even if they fire the staff for gross misconduct which is unlikely given they probably can’t even tell who issued the card its impossible to guarantee someone won’t **** up again.
A simple, cheap and quick to implement solution is to have a method of securing the door from the inside when the room is occupied.
Read the thread again no one has suggested doing this if they had the admins would have already banned the user and deleted the thread.
"Recorder McKone added: This was a disgusting and selfish thing to do. You must have know the stress this would cause.This was her first time away from home. She was left shaken over the thought you (carried out a sex act) while looking at pictures of her on the wall."
So not harrassment, not stalking and not a sexual offence he was just in there to steal a cup of sugar and accidently ****** over her teddy when he saw her gaming PC.
Fitting a lock, using an alarm and going to a self defence class is a knee jerk bloodlust perspective?
Read my earlier posts again I said:
"if he breaks into her room again"
"you are entitled to use reasonable force to protect yourself"
"I'm not suggesting that you keep hiting them with your golf club when they have been disarmed or are trying to flee because at that point they aren't a threat and it wouldn't be resonable force"
You mean like stalkers and rapists that offend again straight after they have been released.
And yes I think he could offend again and the next time the room might not be empty.
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I've never understood why so many people are desperate to defend disgusting criminals.
The only good thing that might come of this, is everyone will know who he is, and he'll hopefully feel enough shame to drop out and leave for good.
The only good thing that might come of this, is everyone will know who he is, and he'll hopefully feel enough shame to drop out and leave for good.
Don't forget that this is the same poster who has spent countless pages arguing that XL bullies are just "misunderstood" and the fact their attacks far outweigh any other dog is just coincidence. It seems they for some reason get a kick out of trying to use elaborate mental gymnastics to try and defend the indefensible.
Anyway, I know if this was at my uni, I'd be making their life as miserable as possible in the hope they'd drop out (and suspect most people would be the same). It's a sad state of affairs when vigilante justice is the only recourse, but that seems to be the way things are going in the UK, and I can only see it getting worse
The poster above who suggested the uni hadn't kicked him out purely for financial reasons has almost certainly hit the nail on the head; when I used to teach at a college we had some right little **** who were constantly disrupting classes and generally making life miserable for the other students (granted nothing as bad as this) but they were never kicked out because we'd lose their funding.
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Go back a few years and university would kick people out, on just an accusation and maybe a shoddy internal investigation.
Some could say that they have learned their lesson and are now following actual due process. The more skeptical may find other reasons for the change in attitude.
They simply printed another card with my room details, gave her that room to access.
Complete hotel staff failure and fault.
I've seen this film.
Which is fine, but that due process should involve immediate dismissal at the point they are found guilty of committing a sexual crime against another student
Only ever manage to get about 30 seconds in...