Covert Narcissistic -Personality Disorder
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Did it blame you?
Soldato
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What you say is true, but the clinical definition of a disorder is where a condition is so bad that it impacts your (or potentially other peoples') ability to have a normal, effective daily life.
In the case of Narcissitic Personality Disorder, it can really **** up the people around you. Those without a disorder can usually still see this problem and make alterations, whereas those with the disorder often require professional intervention.
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It can be, yes.Is it gas lighting when they accuse you of gas lighting?? Just asking for a friend with two toxic siblings who exhibit narcisstic behavours and cannot keep relationships (none in last 20 years for them both) ??
Something narcissists often do is claim you're doing to them exactly they're actually doing to you, often while they're doing it. Playing the victim and deflecting at the same time.
Oh yes, my friend reports LOTs of that... Because they are being untrustworthy they assume everyone else is doing similar tricks
Not just the domain of narcissism, but for me people are usually lying or denying to themselves through other people rather than being deliberately deceptive. Doesn't make it okay. As noted previously, it can be difficult, painful and even damaging for the person to deal with people who lack basic self awareness to such a degree. We all can can fall afoul of self serving bias or egocentricity, but there is a point at it gets too much and its useful to give it a clinical name.
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On the gaslighting thing too, this is something I take a note of when I hear someone say or suggest its happening to them. Its definitely common where its the other way around. Was reminded recently on a couple of crime documentaries and had to put up with it myself too.
Its only one side of the story, and so I've learned to take a step back when I hear that type of accusation.
Its only one side of the story, and so I've learned to take a step back when I hear that type of accusation.
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You nailed it there... total lack of self awareness
Many are but I dont think MOST... But refusing to take your sick mother to the hospital or drive her a mile up the road to have a respite care stint and insisting someone else comes from 45 or 75 miles away to do it instead IS terrible (IMHO)