Terrible Jaguar re-brand

Weird you getting upset for people discussing stuff. Also odd to bring other threads in a different context into this one.

You even conceded that you didn’t understand born2sk8s comment but have seemed to remove it. Then call people clowns for not agreeing with your daily mail headline opinion
 
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Weird you getting upset for people discussing stuff. Also odd to bring other threads in a different context into this one.

You even conceded that you didn’t understand born2sk8s comment but have seemed to remove it

If this is what upset looks like to you, then I can see why you're constantly on the attack :D

I bring other threads in to it because you two have a rather illustrious history of laying in to anyone with an opinion, and trying to have a discussion.

Also, if you can show me the deleted post I'd be eternally grateful, as you seem to know more about my own activities than I do, I might be losing it :eek:
 
You are the one calling people clowns. Not sure I’m attacking anything here ?

Just called out you jumped back into a 6 week old thread based on a headline that will have zero impact from the rebrand as still since June the car hasn’t been launched. So how is this anything to do with the impact of a rebrand???
 
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How can anyone comment on the new position yet ?

Just called out you jumped back into a 6 week old thread based on a headline that will have zero impact from the rebrand

So is it having zero impact or not? First you question whether anyone can comment, then you comment that it'll have zero impact, so which is it?

This is why I call you clowns, you're so blinded by your intolerance of anyone having a differing opinion that you just make yourselves look a bit silly.

EDIT: I must also add that both of you referring the Daily Mail in your posts is quite telling. Anyone with half a brain will just regard that awful site as clickbait nonsense.

EDIT 2: Still waiting for you to show me the deleted post you're referring to, I'll happily take a screenshot if that helps.
 
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Both messages are the same. How can there be any comment or impact assessment of the result of a rebrand when the associated car isn’t launched.

I didn’t screen grab it but there was a paragraph which seems to have been edited from the post.

You literally quoted a headline about redundancies at JLR and associated it to the J only. The LR is doing just fine so your whole conclusion makes no sense.
 
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Exactly, how can they possibly stay afloat? Whilst this could well be a case of trimming the fat, I wouldn't be surprised to hear of bigger layoffs in the near future tbh. Their current business isn't in any way sustainable.

JLR isn’t sustainable after record profits ? Odd comment. No one is arguing. Just calling your clown comments out
 
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JLR is two brands though, not just RR. RR might be doing extremely well, but Jag may as well just be a footnote at this point.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope this works for them, but claiming that Jag is doing extremely well isn't really the whole picture.

JLR isn’t sustainable after record profits ? Odd comment. No one is arguing. Just calling your clown comments out

I wasn't talking about JLR, I was specifically talking about Jaguar. Yanno, the car brand that we've been discussing for over a thousand posts in this very thread.

The one you say we're not allowed to talk about because they haven't launched a car yet. Yet we're currently on page 52 and this is post 1030. Seems like quite a bit of discussion if you ask me.

EDIT: changed the post count to reflect the actual post count, before Simon says I've deleted my post again.
 
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Thread died in June. Rekindled by post about redundancies are at JLR…. You said must be a result of the car that since June nothing has changed. It’s just poor quality posting based on absolute nothing . Do better

Next 2+2=5 and then you will get upset when people tell you are wrong. Username makes sense.

Post count not relevant. If you read I said a paragraph at end of a post was removed. Not the whole post.
 
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Fair enough, I thought it was about Jaguar itself, not JLR. I'll happily admit that.

Which kind of undermines my whole argument.

Point stands though, if JLR are posting record profits and Jaguar isn't producing anything, could profitability from Jaguar have prevented these voluntary redundancies?

My other discussion point also stands, this might just be the tip of the iceberg. It might also be fluff for clicks. We won't find out for a while yet.
 
You said must be a result of the car that since June nothing has changed
nothing having changed on the jaguar re-brand, that could be part of the problem ? and necessitated the re-org;
while jaguar is in the board-room the competition is in the field showing ev advances (bmw&mercedes).

The impact of trumps tarifs still need to be appraised for upcoming profits.

( btw How do the zev fines impact jaguar e:LR )
 
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Point stands though, if JLR are posting record profits and Jaguar isn't producing anything, could profitability from Jaguar have prevented these voluntary redundancies?
JLR hasn't really posted a record profit that's just spin.

Revenue for Q4 was £7.7 billion, down 1.7% year‑on‑year, and revenue for 2025 was £29.0 billion, flat year‑on‑year.

The bit they're spinning is that profit before tax was £2.5 billion for 2025, the highest profit in a decade, but that's been driven mainly by inflation not increased sales.
 
JLR hasn't really posted a record profit that's just spin.

Revenue for Q4 was £7.7 billion, down 1.7% year‑on‑year, and revenue for 2025 was £29.0 billion, flat year‑on‑year.

The bit they're spinning is that profit before tax was £2.5 billion for 2025, the highest profit in a decade, but that's been driven mainly by inflation not increased sales.


Shhhhh, you're not allowed to question it.
 
JLR hasn't really posted a record profit that's just spin.

Revenue for Q4 was £7.7 billion, down 1.7% year‑on‑year, and revenue for 2025 was £29.0 billion, flat year‑on‑year.

The bit they're spinning is that profit before tax was £2.5 billion for 2025, the highest profit in a decade, but that's been driven mainly by inflation not increased sales.
Well inflation is a fair comment but impacts all companies and inflation also affects costs/ wages/ energy.

Not sure why revenue is relevant when talking profit. (i assume you mean 2024 reported in 2025?)
 
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JLR hasn't really posted a record profit that's just spin.

Revenue for Q4 was £7.7 billion, down 1.7% year‑on‑year, and revenue for 2025 was £29.0 billion, flat year‑on‑year.

The bit they're spinning is that profit before tax was £2.5 billion for 2025, the highest profit in a decade, but that's been driven mainly by inflation not increased sales.

Yea you can see it by looking at the value of their shares. It has been flat for years. Absolute non-event and most likely it will tank once the wokemobile fails to sell.

A company doesn't cut jobs when they are making lots of profit. Either it's spin or they are miss-reporting it (which will come back to bite later if they are).
 
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Yea you can see it by looking at the value of their shares. It has been flat for years. Absolute non-event and most likely it will tank once the wokemobile fails to sell.

A company doesn't cut jobs when they are making lots of profit. Either it's spin or they are miss-reporting it (which will come back to bite later if they are).
Where can you buy shares for this privately owned company please?

Maybe its to pave the way for 2026 numbers. Plenty of companies cut staff when making money...
 
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you'll have to wait a bit

Jaguar Land Rover delays launch of new Range Rover Electric


Britain’s largest carmaker, Jaguar Land Rover, has delayed the planned launches of its new electric Range Rover and electric Jaguar models to give it time for more testing and for demand to pick up, the Guardian can reveal.

JLR has written to customers waiting for the Range Rover Electric to inform them that deliveries of the new version of the model will not start until next year, after initially aiming for late 2025.
 
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