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General question - is it pretty much mandatory to have a smart meter if you want to have an EV? Is it bonkers to even consider having a wall charger installed without one? I presume it’s much cheaper charging off peak overnight. We’ve had multiple issues trying to get a smart meter installed due to the location of our current meter which is frustrating.

All three are independent - you can buy an EV if you want, and you can get a wall charger if you want. If you want the cheap overnight tarrif, you HAVE to have a smart meter so they can bill you correctly.

If you stay on a normal tarrif and just pay 25p round the clock, then it’ll still be cheaper than running an ICE but not as cheap as it could be at 7p overnight.

On the plus side you could just run it off a 3 pin plug all day and night as the price would be the same, rather than just the 5 ish hours you’d get at the cheap rate with a wall charger and save the cost of getting one.

Swings and roundabouts, but having the 7kw wall charger and cheap overnight tarrif is the best option long term.
 
Picked up my 2022 ID3 Pro performance Max today. What a step up from the MG4, going to take me 6 months until I figure out all the toys though :cry:

First milestone, charging works :o
It’s weird, but the interior on the ID.3 looks low rent at first glance, but it’s a really well screwed together car that has a ride/refinement that is top of its class..

Remember in individual mode you can set the suspension to be comfier than comfort mode!
 
These days whenever I have stopped to use a super charger; they were either open to all or there was sufficient provision of other chargers.

The other chargers were at a much higher price mind, many are 2-3x the price but you use them so little if you can charge at home it’s not such a big deal but some people can’t get past this point. That said it doesn’t take much paying 70p+/kwh to dwarf my home charging costs with public charging.

The sufficient provision of other chargers didn’t used to be the case but it very much is now. Sure there are pockets all over the country which are over subscribed but those are getting less and less all the time.

I wouldn’t be concerned about having a car from another brand, I didn’t lease the Tesla because of the charger network, it got leased because it was cheaper than similar cars from other brands at the time (e.g. Kia EV6).
Whilst I partly agree, in that third party chargers are certainly far more prevalent, it’s still quite slanted in Tesla’s favour.

We;ve been travelling up north the last week, Tebay services, we went straight in, with 4-6 bays of the super chargers free, there was a 8 car queue for the ‘cheap’ £0.69pwkh third party chargers..
Then on the way back from Scotland to The lakes, we stopped at Gretna (open to all super chargers), 2-3 bays free but speaking with the BMW i4 owner next to us he was cursing BMW since the super chargers aren’t on his inbuilt map. He has to use third party apps constantly.. The fact people are queuing at tebay when 20 miles on they could be charging for 30p/kwh cheaper with more availability tells you that planning and app usage is not leading to seamless cheap charging.

So it’s a mixed bag, I’m fine using apps, but can’t believe the price disparity on main routes, it’s insane and once again, for the main bulk of the journeys, the Tesla is just fire and forget, only when venturing off the main routes do I bust the apps open, and then will top up at any SC I go near just for the cheaper pricing..

I could manage with something non Tesla, I bought the Tesla both for its relative cheap lease rates and charging since we had too many bad experiences in the ID.3, although I could go very large battery non Tesla next time, I imagine we’d just do the safe thing and get a Juniper Model Y because the car has grown on me and has such few flaws.
 
So, looks like the PV5 LR in Plus trim is £39k, just under the £40k tax luxury threshold (even with paint) :D

Looking forward to see what the price of a used one is in a couple of years :)
I did, we agreed to call it quits in the end and I dropped it off for a full refund.

Good result, but you should never have had the fight you did to get to that point!

Then less than a week later it's already back on their site "just arrived, undergoing preparation" for £700 more than I paid, no way they got it in with MG and fixed in that time.

They sound like absolute cowboys :(
 
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It’s weird, but the interior on the ID.3 looks low rent at first glance, but it’s a really well screwed together car that has a ride/refinement that is top of its class..

Remember in individual mode you can set the suspension to be comfier than comfort mode!
Agreed, wife has been borrowing a Cupra Born from work which looks much nicer inside but feels horribly cheap when you actually touch anything. The ID3 just feels solid and planted without setting the world alight looks wise.

I shall investigate that on my way home from the office, still trying to get the right level of finesse to adjust my cruise control by 1mph and not 5 all the time :o
 
I shall investigate that on my way home from the office, still trying to get the right level of finesse to adjust my cruise control by 1mph and not 5 all the time :o

If it works the same as the last VW Group cars ive driven with ACC, the +/- will adjust by 5mph, the Set/Res will adjust by 1mph.
 
If it works the same as the last VW Group cars ive driven with ACC, the +/- will adjust by 5mph, the Set/Res will adjust by 1mph.
Tried that hoping it was the same as my Seat but apparently on the ID you need to gently tickle the +/- for 1mph or properly push it for 5mph. I'm just not delicate enough yet.
 
Tried that hoping it was the same as my Seat but apparently on the ID you need to gently tickle the +/- for 1mph or properly push it for 5mph. I'm just not delicate enough yet.
You just use res and sel for 1mph. Slide up and down on the arrows for 5mph increments.
 
Lol, it's been just about 24 hours and I'm already annoyed at Tesla. Hoping it's nothing but I feel I've been baited and switched out of £200.

They have a promotion on PCP at the moment. 0% APR with a £3000 contribution for vehicles delivered by the end of September. When I ordered, it said 2-3 weeks. Well within that time frame. Today, the App says 20th September - 9th October. I've emailed the store to confirm they'll honour that deal and I'd hope they would but I would imagine it's totally down to their discretion.

They do have a Quicksilver model in stock but for an extra £1500 or so. Or they have Stealth Grey with the 19" rims, again another £1500 or so. Both available now but I was happy with what I selected. Hopefully they tell me to shut up and they'll honour it regardless.
 
You’ll get it on time and the deal you signed up to. End of the quarter rush and all that. Presumably you’ve signed the contract and done all of the pre-delivery steps already?

Once all the contracts are signed etc, if they have a match to your spec in stock, they’ll just allocate that and contact you to say it’s ready to go. They aren’t going to wait for a fresh one to come from China.

The £200 deposit is refundable if you bought the car online unless you bought the car via a company, distance selling regulations trump any policy they may have on deposits.
 
You just use res and sel for 1mph. Slide up and down on the arrows for 5mph increments.
I'll give it another go on the way home but I'm sure I tried it last night and it bonged so knew I was pushing the res/sel buttons but didn't change the set speed.
 
Hopefully it's me just being impatient and worrying. Would be pretty ****** to offer a deal, show a delivery time that would be eligible for the deal then take it away due to something out of my control! But business are gonna business!

Yep, all the steps in the app are complete it just says 'view' and shows me the steps I've completed with nothing further to action.

Yeah, ordered through the website on my phone. Though I'd rather get the car at 0% than £200 back!
 
I'll give it another go on the way home but I'm sure I tried it last night and it bonged so knew I was pushing the res/sel buttons but didn't change the set speed.
In my ID4, you gently touch the buttons for 1mph increments and a longer/firmer press for 5mph.
 
Tried that hoping it was the same as my Seat but apparently on the ID you need to gently tickle the +/- for 1mph or properly push it for 5mph. I'm just not delicate enough yet.

For the Tavascan it's:

Slide for + or - 5mph
Tap/Click for 1mph
 
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Called them up and they said they're not 100% sure they could honour it if it goes past that date. I've gone from being really excited to being really let down.

What a rollercoaster.
 
Called them up and they said they're not 100% sure they could honour it if it goes past that date. I've gone from being really excited to being really let down.

What a rollercoaster.
I'd be politely reminding them who the customer is.... and be prepared to walk away. Its frankly ridiculous people put up with crap like this when its the second biggest purchase someone is likely to make
 
I'd be politely reminding them who the customer is.... and be prepared to walk away. Its frankly ridiculous people put up with crap like this when its the second biggest purchase someone is likely to make
Yeah I’m prepared to walk away if no solution can be found. Annoyed as really liked it and said for years I’d get one
 
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