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My sapphire pure has pure whine at 180+hz/180fps+, although I might just test it again by disabling freesync, target frame lock as apparently coil whine can disappear as a GPU "settles in"
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The Radeon RX9070XT / RX9070 Owners Thread
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My sapphire pure has pure whine at 180+hz/180fps+, although I might just test it again by disabling freesync, target frame lock as apparently coil whine can disappear as a GPU "settles in"
Intersting you should say that.
I have bought the same model and have a bit of coil whine.
Never had coil whine ever before.
To clarify a "bit"...
Only played a few games so far and it's been fine. But when I ran 3D Mark to do some initial benching that's when it occurred (obv benching will push it to it's limits).
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The worst coil whine was during FF7 shader compilation.
Hmm literally going to push it a bit this morning with a more challenging game.
I will see how it goes. Although I still have the side panel off the case which obv doesn't help matters!
Maybe I’ll just leave furmark running for a few hours today to see if that helps.
The main games I play have a functional implementation of Anti-Lag 2 but the open beta for BF6 had an anti lag setting that did absolutely nothing! So that was where I started to notice it for the first time.
Yeah, now I’m noticing anytime I’m pushing the card to 100% usage. I haven’t even thought to check before, I was playing The Finals (which has anti-lag 2), Helldivers 2 (which I play with a 120fps cap) and Peak (120fps cap) and of course it wouldn’t appear in those situations.
Might see how it goes for the rest of the weekend with more tests.
Hmm, shader compilation is usually done by the CPU though, which would put less and not more stress on the GPU at that moment.
I have a 300hz monitor and the 9070XT/9800X3D does a great job at hitting that in a lot of the games I play - but with Anti-Lag 2 it does a super job of keeping frames high whilst not pushing the GPU above 95% util.
The downside is how few games seem to have a working version of Anti-Lag 2 implemented. I guess in a similar vein to FSR4 at this point... It's fantastic and is everything we were hoping for - but the amount of support in games is so little compared to Nvidia with Reflex and DLSS that it's getting a little frustrating at this point.
In the BF6 Beta, Nvidia GPUs had both Reflex and DLSS4 support - whilst AMD had neither FSR4 or anti-lag (there was a toggle, but it didn't actually work) support.
Yeh I'm a tad confused also. My screen runs at 165 and I always cap it there.
No logical reason to run higher as won't see the other frames. Unless I am missing something...
It's an odd one, you probably wouldn't notice it initially going to 300 from 120 - but you'd certainly notice going back down to 120 after using 300 for a while.
And I'm mainly playing shooters (Finals/OW2) so it's one of those where a higher fps gives you a little extra in certain situations. Going from 180hz to 300hz didn't turn me into a top 500 ruby player - but it definitely refined how I play and I definitely think I've made it to the top 1000/1200 on the Finals a lot quicker this season since changing.
The lowest input lag is reflex/anti-lag 2 without any frame caps or vsync - so if you're playing a competitive FPS game (or other competitive non-FPS game) then you want to be running that way.
It's all about latency - but it is also down to the types of games you play and whether you feel you benefit from a 5-10ms decrease in input latency. As I said, in some games I'm running an fps game where I don't need to have the lowest input latency (Helldivers 2, Space Marine 2, Wukong, Peak, GoW Ragnarok etc.) but for any game I play competitively then I want to run as high as possible.
That is the reason but it makes no sense when one can just get monitor with one 300Hz refresh rate these days and use that. It made more sense when people only had 60Hz slow monitors but even then monitor own latency wasn't helping then at all.
I can that effect placebo. There's no real physiological proof this is a real thing, but power of suggestion is enormous in case of humans. Things don't physically get different but it's enough to think they do to feel the change.
This is highly unlikely to feel any different when latency change is only 5-10ms. Fastest possible human reaction time that's completely subconscious (so using just spinal autonomous nerves, not even brain, which bypasses most processing lag) is about 80ms. That is just to send a signal, then muscles lag as well to actually move.
Human eyes need at best 20ms+ (usually closer to 40+ma) to process image and turn it into nerve signal that then needs to be processed further by they brain. Brain processes image and reacts within 200ms in conscious way. Older people go up to even 400ms, young and fighter pilots can go down to 150ms at best. Fun fact, sound is being processed much faster, by 20-40ms than visuals and yet you don't see people talk much about audio latency which actually in FPS shooters could play higher role in lowering reaction time.
Most importantly, humans don't see the world (and computer screen) as it really is, live. What we see is the past and what we react to is the predicted future based on the seen past and experience/training. In other words, being good at twitch games have zero to do with physical low reaction times of your hardware and software and everything to do with just getting better at the game and making better predictions in your brain.
And placebo makes people feel better about themselves so they train harder and they get better at the game - it seems to be as simple as that.
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I just upgraded to a 9070XT and it voted just fine in my system. It was unstable, but a new power supply solved that. The driver contains about my system both being UEFI which it isn't. I am running my old X58/i7-920 system that has proven to be very stable.
But I just had a need to enter the bios, and it turns out this card really does not support BIOS, like at all. The bios screen is completely garbled and displays as graphics when it should be character mode. Windows 10 is working ok with the card, despite the complaint about CSM.
There was no hint I noticed that this card would be incompatible with BIOS. Upgrading to new hardware right now is bad timing, as I expect AMD to release new generation "soon" and I hate the AM5 platform for having so few PCIe lanes. Also, the new motherboard only have 4 SATA ports and I need twice that.
I don't like upgrading to something that has fewer features. I like the versatility of the PC.
But I just had a need to enter the bios, and it turns out this card really does not support BIOS, like at all. The bios screen is completely garbled and displays as graphics when it should be character mode. Windows 10 is working ok with the card, despite the complaint about CSM.
There was no hint I noticed that this card would be incompatible with BIOS. Upgrading to new hardware right now is bad timing, as I expect AMD to release new generation "soon" and I hate the AM5 platform for having so few PCIe lanes. Also, the new motherboard only have 4 SATA ports and I need twice that.
I don't like upgrading to something that has fewer features. I like the versatility of the PC.
I do not disagree. I have just not been satisfied with the options of the new platforms, and I hate wasting working hardware. To fix my BIOS problem I was considering adding an older GPU, just to get the bios to work, but expect to get in trouble with primary/non-primary GPU option in the bios/windows.
But I can easily play WoW on this setup, and that is my main concern.