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Unreal Engine 5 - unbelievable.

Yeah but its specifically designed to show eye candy. An actual game has to have resources dedicated to ai etc so some processing power goes to that. Unless that's an actual in development game they're showcasing.
like always
 

"The main cause is the order of development,” Sweeney said in a media interview after his Unreal Fest keynote in South Korea. “Many studios build for top-tier hardware first and leave optimization and low-spec testing for the end. Ideally, optimization should begin early—before full content build-out. We’re doing two things: strengthening engine support with more automated optimization across devices, and expanding developer education so ‘optimize early’ becomes standard practice. If needed, our engineers can step in."
 
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meanwhile smaller devs seem to do just fine with UE5 and performance

And that's fine, but Tim/Epic was suggesting devs are only not optimising for low end hardware - effectively Epic is deflecting blame and saying if your new UE5 game doesn't run well it's because your PC is **** and you should upgrade
 
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Don't worry, UE6 will be vibe coded so you will hallucinate your way through games rather than play them.
 
And that's fine, but Tim/Epic was suggesting devs are only not optimising for low end hardware - effectively Epic is deflecting blame and saying if your new UE5 game doesn't run well it's because your PC is **** and you should upgrade

I don't know it there was (as I suspect there is now) a guide of good practices, but they do say a game has to be well thought from the beginning or else it will be practically impossible to fix it at the end.


I’d get a crazy headache trying to play this, I envy those able to play these games

Yeah... frame gen, sync at a specific fps (including v sync) can help with this somewhat, but it gets a bit laggy.
 
That doesn't explain the stuttering though, which is the main issue, as it will stutter on all hardware no matter how high end your hardware is. Even their own game Fortnite has such issues.

Perhaps Tim Sweeney is being a bit disingenuous here as he must be aware of what people are complaining about.
 
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That doesn't explain the stuttering though, which is the main issue, as it will stutter on all hardware no matter how high end your hardware is. Even their own game Fortnite has such issues.

Perhaps Tim Sweeney is being a bit disingenuous here as he must be aware of what people are complaining about.

But it's not optimised for high end either.
They explain the reason for some of those hitches / stutters. I don't see why they wouldn't be aware of them in their own game. Why they don't address it, don't know, maybe wait for something more significant as in improvement.
From my experience, there are some games that can be rather smooth(ish). Stalker 2 is pretty decent now outside of the busy hubs. Maybe nVIDIA did some magic with their drivers, don't know... Others are a mess.
 
That doesn't explain the stuttering though, which is the main issue, as it will stutter on all hardware no matter how high end your hardware is. Even their own game Fortnite has such issues.

Perhaps Tim Sweeney is being a bit disingenuous here as he must be aware of what people are complaining about.
Are you claiming that all UE5 titles stutter? That's not correct.


 
meanwhile smaller devs seem to do just fine with UE5 and performance
Smaller games are easier to optimize. The refcount/GC architecture at the heart of Unreal is fine with statically-loaded levels, or even simpler streamed worlds. Much bigger, more complex games that rely heavily on streaming, are much, much more complex to optimize. You end up having to leave behind the core architecture of Unreal and build in another framework....which is where things are going ultimately, but there's a lot of legacy to deal with.
 
That doesn't explain the stuttering though, which is the main issue, as it will stutter on all hardware no matter how high end your hardware is. Even their own game Fortnite has such issues.
Can't say as though I've ever noticed stutter on Fortnite, although I'm a PS5 player ;)
 
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