Eh, I’m not fighting anyone. If someone wants my wallet, they can have it. I can cancel my bank cards and get a new membership card off the National Trust, I’ll be alright.
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so my next question stands
Edit: Also I didn't ask about you personally. We are talking about in general.
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There is a middle ground between living in fear of purse snatchers and being able to shoot people dead on the street.
FTFY
Yeah the middle ground is fighting them but you rejected that idea. Have you forgotten already?
I rejected that idea for me, but you said you didn't ask about me personally, and we are talking about in general. Have you forgotten already?
People are welcome to fight thieves. I wouldn’t recommend it, though.
You can't really pull the have you forgotten card when you've only just addressed the question. Doesn't work that way
So you think people should engage in a fair fight with thieves because you don't like the idea of them getting shot. You should have said that and we would have avoided all this back and forth.
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No, I don’t think people should fight thieves. They can if they want to, but I wouldn’t advise it. It’s not worth the risk of getting hurt.You can't really pull the have you forgotten card when you've only just addressed the question. Doesn't work that way
So you think people should engage in a fair fight with thieves because you don't like the idea of them getting shot. You should have said that and we would have avoided all this back and forth.
I've already addressed this. See post 6402. You gave an ambiguous answer without offering any solutions of your own. I'm not going round in circle on this with you.
Whether people should live in fear of purse snatchers is not the same question as whether people should fight purse snatchers. I don’t fear purse snatchers, but I also won’t fight someone trying to mug me.
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If people have the abilities to fight an unarmed mugger, then it's up to them.
Not many people have the ability to fight a mugger armed with a knife, and even less people have the ability to fight a mugger armed with a gun.
Not many people have the ability to fight a mugger armed with a knife, and even less people have the ability to fight a mugger armed with a gun.
So people should just accept that being a victim of a purse snatchers is a part of life because you don't think they should be shot dead.
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Apparently we all have to accept your hyperbole.
But no, I don’t think people should be shot dead if we can at all avoid it.
if the options you are providing are to shoot them or just let them get away with it, then letting them get away with it is the only real alternative. crap and all as it would be to live in a society where you have to just accept purse snatchers, it would a whole lot worse if we were allowed to just shoot someone on sight, in the middle of the street.
People should push for governments to actually address the causes of crime, because both capital punishment and arming civilians isn't the fix.
I'd feel more uncomfortable knowing that many random people around me are carrying guns, vs knowing that someone might try to nick my manbag.
How is it hyperbole? Where is the exaggeration? You think people should just accept being a victim when confronted with a criminal. In reference to the particular post. You think the old lady should have just accepted being a victim and should not have shot them.
There is no exaggeration. You've literally confirmed all of it is true in the exact same post you accuse me of exagerating it.
The word of the day is hyperbole and that is a hyperbole.
I would ask you to give your ideas on how people can prevent being a victim when they are targeted but I suspect your answer will be the same as his. Just accept being a victim. Which leads back to my statement that started this whole thing
"why do people care so much about criminals over there victims?"
So what should people do in the meantime
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so what's your plan - lets leave shooting people out of the equation, you really won't be doing that nor would you want to live somewhere it was ok to just shoot someone on the street for trying to steal your purse. what do you suggest people do 'in the meantime'
I think the UK needs more rules to allow people to defend themselves from crimnals if they wish to do so. Yes including shooting them.
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People can already defend themselves against criminals. Thats perfectly legal.
The hyperbole is you continually referring to the fact that I think people shouldn’t be shot dead in the street as though there’s nothing between that and just doing nothing.
The fact that I personally would do nothing and probably think that’s the best plan for most people doesn’t mean I think that should be the case for everyone. Given that the law allows people to defend themselves suggests that there is in fact some middle ground open to people, and that’s fine by me.
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