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Figured I will need to charge at least one, but the motorway supercharger network looks good on the Tesla app, so it shouldn't add too much time to the journey

As I said if you need to stop for anything else and you whack it on charge then you will likely add almost no time to the total journey since you have the longer range version of the car.
 
Going on my first long-distance road trip today (320 miles) let's see how the model 3 fares over an ICE vehicle
I'm having to do similar milage this weekend but it's going to be in multiple legs away from home rather than just getting in, going and coming back again.

Worked out I'll need to 100% it before I leave, top it back up to 100 while I'm in the office on Friday then that should cover me until the home leg on Sunday where I'll need 10-15 minutes on a rapid before I get going.

Would have been easier using the Kona for the bigger range but my wife isn't on the ID3 insurance until it renews in a few weeks and to be fair I prefer driving the ID anyway.

Definitely not as easy as just brimming the ICE tank before I leave and not worrying about it but this is also a very unusual use case for my cars so not the end of the world once every year at most.
 
Out of the two, I would get the highland m3lr AWD over the non-highland m3p.
The non-highland m3p is just not special enough to justify getting it over the highland refresh

I can wait for the right vehicle to turn up. If I can justify pushing for a “highland” performance I will try but this will be more of a luxury than anything. I’m not sure the depreciation allows me to do it.
 
You’ll soon learn any benefit doesn’t outweigh the missing 20% at low charging costs

This is true at least for long range trips.

Standard day to day stick to the 80% rule to help prolong battery life. Especially if you own rather than lease and plan to keep for 4-5 years or longer.
 
I can wait for the right vehicle to turn up. If I can justify pushing for a “highland” performance I will try but this will be more of a luxury than anything. I’m not sure the depreciation allows me to do it.
Highland m3p has the adaptive suspension which none of the others have which makes it a more worthy buy than a non highland m3p
 
This is true at least for long range trips.

Standard day to day stick to the 80% rule to help prolong battery life. Especially if you own rather than lease and plan to keep for 4-5 years or longer.
But by doing 100% on 7kW he’s avoiding a 220kw charge or whatever. So swings and roundabouts regarding battery life. Anyway seems odd to get a long range version then ignore 20% of the battery
 
Making a wild assumption here but I'd assume charging to 100% at 7kw and using it straight away is probably healthier for the battery than needing to spend longer rapid charging at 220+kw but I'd guess we're really talking such a small difference that you might as well just do whichever you're more comfortable with
 
But by doing 100% on 7kW he’s avoiding a 220kw charge or whatever. So swings and roundabouts regarding battery life. Anyway seems odd to get a long range version then ignore 20% of the battery

On the contrary, a larger battery gives more, not less flexibility. I got a larger battery version of the Cupra Born so I could charge to 80% and still have more range than a 58kWh that is charged to 100%.
 
there is really nothing to worry about charging it up 100% when you need it. Just do it and get on with your life.

There is enough evidence out there now that suggests babying the battery vs just using it like a ‘typical’ person would (per the manufacturer’s instructions) doesn’t materially improve battery degradation.

As @IDCP, it’s all about the extra flexibility, you can also add more range more quickly when you do need to stop and charge.

The long range and standard range take about the same amount of time to go from 10% to 80% but each % in the long range equates to more distance in miles.
 
Highland m3p has the adaptive suspension which none of the others have which makes it a more worthy buy than a non highland m3p
I think the idea was to get a 2023 and use that for a year or so until the highland performance is a better value prospect.

Ideally would like a Pre 2025 reg also.
 
On the contrary, a larger battery gives more, not less flexibility. I got a larger battery version of the Cupra Born so I could charge to 80% and still have more range than a 58kWh that is charged to 100%.
But it’s now 130kg heavier

Think 80% is a bit safe anyway. 90% fine and 100% before a long trip

Why you worrying about saving the batteries max range when you aren’t even using it. Seems odd and the 77kW eboost needs 85% or more battery for max motor output. So it’s heavier and slower vs a 58 which only needs 55% or more for max power.
 
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