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Yeah, I think for me it works out.

Just realised they also do the smart charging where if the car is plugged in and smart charges during the day, the whole house gets 6.5p/kWh.

Have had my DNO request approved. I believe it's roughly two weeks to get the charger installed. I still have ~700 free supercharger miles left so that may just float me until then
 
Junglist said:
Just realised they also do the smart charging where if the car is plugged in and smart charges during the day, the whole house gets 6.5p/kWh.
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In that case Eon is definitely the winner then. Didn't realise they did the smart charging as well.
 
Junglist said:
So how do the 7p hours you may get in the day work out? Does it only happen if you car is also charging?
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Yup only if charging, works well for us as we WFH many days and only have a slow charging PHEV so its always connected between school runs etc, our average unit rate for a month for all house electric is ~12-13p per Kw due to how much 7p we get at all times. No solar or battery here yet. House/EV split percentage for unit use is about 60/40, we don't do a lot of miles :D
 
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sandys said:
Yup only if charging, works well for us as we WFH many days and only have a slow charging PHEV so its always connected between school runs etc, our average unit rate for a month for all house electric is ~12-13p per Kw due to how much 7p we get at all times. No solar or battery here yet.
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I've been hinting that my partner, who does WFH 90% of the time, should lease a cheap EV which she is somewhat keen to do down the line but not immediately.

I think when we re-mortgage in ~18 months we'll probably look at getting a decent sized battery for the house.
 
Junglist said:
I've been hinting that my partner, who does WFH 90% of the time, should lease a cheap EV which she is somewhat keen to do down the line but not immediately.

I think when we re-mortgage in ~18 months we'll probably look at getting a decent sized battery for the house.
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I looked at that but the payback period was something like 7-8 years based on the peak vs off peak rate

Plus no guarantee the smart tariffs will be offered forever so bit of a risk
 
It's more the solar I'm looking to capture. It was really annoying on sunny days in the summer we would have the tumble dryer on along with everything else in the house and it would still be exporting! I'd rather some of that go into our battery for use at another time
 
Junglist said:
I've been hinting that my partner, who does WFH 90% of the time, should lease a cheap EV which she is somewhat keen to do down the line but not immediately.

I think when we re-mortgage in ~18 months we'll probably look at getting a decent sized battery for the house.
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The way i see it the battery is a very nice addition to a solar set up, but right now because of the 15p+ export on the right tariff its nice to have but not essential.

For me my order of what will probably save me the most money if getting today would be EV 1st, then Solar and then battery (making the assumption that you can charge the EV at home and get on a charging tariff like Intelligent Octopus).

I paid extra to get a charge point at home which allowed me to charge from solar.. its future proofing however i never charge off solar, because i can sell my excess more than the off peak electricity costs. This could change in the future however who knows?!.

a decent sized solar array with 10kwh battery storage and bird proofing would probably cost you around £8000 give or take (my mate had his installed earlier this year). the whole lot should pay for itsself in 7-8 years at which point it is pure profit after.

maybe in the future export payments may change, i do not have a crystal ball so cant be sure... but what i can be sure of is if you make the electricity yourself its free. averaged over the course of a year my electricity AND gas bill along with charging 2 EVs around 8000 miles a year each works out around £60 a month before i had solar and no EV, I was paying >£150 a month electricity and gas and then around £200 a month on fuel. Electricity was cheaper then than it is now as well.

Add to that a solar system and EV charge point will surely add to the value of your property - or at least make it more attractive to buyers. I know if ever i move house if the pad I was looking at didnt have solar or EV charging that would instantly be added onto my vital costs before considering making an offer.
 
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MOOGLEYS said:
New Ioniq 3 concept looks fantastic. Hopefully the final car is somewhat similar.
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that looks mint. so far i am fully onboard with getting a R5 EV when we come to replace the wifes i3.... but that i think may be a real contender as well if it looks anything like that. (ultimately it wont be my choice i expect)

PS after having an i3 for some time i can say that suicide doors have their place. with no centre pillar they make getting in and out far easier than most 2 door cars and the back door can be smaller than 4 or 5 door cars. (bit of a pain having to open the front door before the rear but not sure if that is an i3 thing or if all suicide doors are like that.
 
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I’ve got 23 solar panels (10kwp) split east/west (so far from ideal) and a 13.5kwh battery my total energy bill is now sub-zero. Car, heating and electricity all covered.

I got paid all my credit back in March and I’m back up at £770 in credit and this month will likely be negative also.

I’ll need ~£400 to get me through winter to next March. My direct debit is £10 so I’d need to knock another £120 off but there will be plenty coming back to me in March.

Solar this year has been good but even in a typical year like last year, I had a negative bill.
 
We’ve already got solar in place, not sure if the capacity but 8 pretty big panels. So it’s just annoying exporting when I know we could be storing it to use ourselves or export later
 
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We’ve already got solar in place, not sure if the capacity but 8 pretty big panels. So it’s just annoying exporting when I know we could be storing it to use ourselves or export later
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I take it you are on a FIT tariff?

If not, you are better off exporting it than putting it in a car.
 
Junglist said:
We’ve already got solar in place, not sure if the capacity but 8 pretty big panels. So it’s just annoying exporting when I know we could be storing it to use ourselves or export later
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If you can export at 13p and charge at 7p then you'd be missing a trick spending a couple of grand on a battery to lose money :o
 
On Holiday said:
Bought some roof bars for the Audi Q4 e-tron (45).
Put them on.
Real-world range went from 300 to about 220 (averaged over 800 miles with the bars on - no cargo on top).
Took them back off.

Guess I won't bother with that then :D Can't imagine how much worse it'd have been with a box on top.
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I'm sure I read somewhere that empty bars create more drag than bars plus a roof box.
 
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I’m not wanting a battery to charge the car. Wanted to charge the battery on solar and/or the cheaper hours and reduce how much electric we use during peak hours. Don’t think we generate enough to make selling back worthwhile. Especially in the months with less light
 
chanjy said:
If you can export at 13p and charge at 7p then you'd be missing a trick spending a couple of grand on a battery to lose money :o
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don't forget you can charge the battery overnight using off-peak electricity if you have an EV tariff and then run your house during the day. maybe not a big issue in the summer months but October thought to march inclusive the battery really comes into its own.
a house battery is "only" a few grand if you get a no frills one as well (so long as you have a compatible hybrid inverter for the solar system

or is that what you meant,? maybe I am tired but am not sure.
 
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sandys said:
Yup only if charging, works well for us as we WFH many days and only have a slow charging PHEV so its always connected between school runs etc, our average unit rate for a month for all house electric is ~12-13p per Kw due to how much 7p we get at all times. No solar or battery here yet. House/EV split percentage for unit use is about 60/40, we don't do a lot of miles :D
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I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go, car doesn't have to be charging, just has to be plugged in ready to charge to get the cheap rate for the house and/ or batteries - when Octopus calculates the schedule everything is at the cheap rate.
 
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I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go, car doesn't have to be charging, just has to be plugged in ready to charge to get the cheap rate for the house and/ or batteries - when Octopus calculates the schedule everything is at the cheap rate.
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Yeah quite easy to game the system and get cheap rates in the day.
 
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