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Heathrow total shutdown
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The fire service apparently went in wearing hazardous protection gear, but there is a lot between hazardous and "mass hysteria", as you can have materials/smoke that does things like hurts your eyes, smells terrible but is no worse than normal smoke in terms of danger but the average person won't be able to tell the difference just that it might have a strong chemical odour and be hurting their eyes (a lot of plastics do that, whilst not being "hazardous" as defined in terms of extra protection needed to handle it, but fire fighters in a commercial area that does have industrial cleaning agents etc won't take chances until they've checked).
People rushing to get to the exits so things like falls, sprained ankles, bruises all will be recorded as injuries and are pretty much expected when you have an evacuation of any building with a lot of people in it, especially if the reason they're heading out is smoke or they don't know exactly why the fire alarms are going off and they're being told to evacuate (people panic and often that leads to more injuries than the actual reason for the alarm).
Yeah. When people start panicking for the exit that is plausible. You've never heard of crush style injuries and deaths before?
Not everything is a conspiracy..
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That's what they want you to think
I'm worried people are gossiping behind my back saying that I'm paranoidThat's what they want you to think
I wouldn't worry, they're not saying you're paranoid.
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Man arrested after CS gas found in Heathrow evacuation
A man is arrested on suspicion of possessing a firearm after the partial evacuation of Heathrow.
www.bbc.co.uk
Bit weird to claim mass hysteria then change their mind to somebody with CS gas
Heathrow cyber-attack: Delays possible after check-in system hit
The airport warned delays were possible due to "technical issues" also affecting Brussels and Berlin.
www.bbc.co.uk
Yet more problems Cyber attack for the check in, but not just Heathrow that's been hit.
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Not Heathrow's fault to be fair, seems a 3rd party who provides check-in systems has been hacked and its hitting airports across Europe
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Honestly if you're not prepapring for a multiday power black out at this point I don't know what will get you motivated. JLR had SAP ransomware attacked and so many companies use it for finance, stock control, work planning and safty rules. Don't know what has taken out Heathrow yet but let's face it I don't think anything connected to the internet is genuinely 100% safe if National Grid can't control the grid flexibly then they'd have to whack off all the wind and solar and rely on dispatchable gas, biomass and nuclear and that would be only just enough for winter demand and even then events could cause a cascade failure. I think events like this highlight the limits of resilience in essential infrastructure.
Yes they probably are. I work quite closely with our Cybersec team (not an airport though) so get to see some interesting things. Taking out an airport, just after Russia invaded Polish and Lithuanian airspace is almost certainly related.
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The systems impacted are in ARINC Multi-User System Environment (MUSE™) aka Rockwell Collins’ ARINC vMUSE™.
ARINC SelfServ devices are down in airports worldwide, they do self service check in. They’re connected to navAviNet aka ARINC Ground Network, managed by Collins Aerospace, who are owned by RTX Raytheon.
Reports that the attackers got onto to the shared network.
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You mean, like a retaliation for the 2 LAPSUS$/Scattered Spider/ShinyHunters key members being arrested and charged.
Teenagers charged over Transport for London cyber attack
The police say the hack caused "significant disruption" and "millions in losses" for TfL.
www.bbc.co.uk
United Kingdom National Charged in Connection with Multiple Cyber Attacks, Including on Critical Infrastructure
A complaint filed in the District of New Jersey was unsealed today charging Thalha Jubair, a United Kingdom national, with conspiracies to commit computer fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering, in relation to at least 120 computer network intrusions and extortion involving 47 U.S. entities.
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