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throw ins and corners are opportunities to score why not exploit them

Amazes me people moan about it, its a way to take an advantage over the opposition i couldnt care less how we win or get a result
 
Arsenal are set piece specialists, play defensively and love a long throw into the "mixer"...its very Stokey.
We aren't great at set pieces for quite a while. Have played no more defensive than our opposition and did 3 long throws today..... Not one single team this season has played consistent attacking attractive football.
 
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It's not the fact that Arsenal try to score from set-plays that's the issue, it's the fact that from open play you're far too defensive and don't create the volume or quality of chances that the sides they're competing with do.
 
It's not the fact that Arsenal try to score from set-plays that's the issue, it's the fact that from open play you're far too defensive and don't create the volume or quality of chances that the sides they're competing with do.
Its something that always baffles me about Arteta, the current Arsenal squad is probably one of, if not the, best overall squad in the league, their bench at times is insane, yet it always seems like , to borrow a Gary Neville phrase, they play too often with the handbrake on. I actually think that the weakest 3rd of the City team is their defence (keeper withstanding) and that if you have a go at City they are vulnerable. Will be interesting to see what happens when the Liverpool v City game comes round, my money is on a Liverpool win purely because of the way that Liverpool will go at them.
 
Its something that always baffles me about Arteta, the current Arsenal squad is probably one of, if not the, best overall squad in the league, their bench at times is insane, yet it always seems like , to borrow a Gary Neville phrase, they play too often with the handbrake on. I actually think that the weakest 3rd of the City team is their defence (keeper withstanding) and that if you have a go at City they are vulnerable. Will be interesting to see what happens when the Liverpool v City game comes round, my money is on a Liverpool win purely because of the way that Liverpool will go at them.
It's just his nature. He knows that by being more adventurous they will lose some of their defensive stability and he doesn't want to do that. He believes that if they can keep things tight at the back, the law of averages means they'll win more often than not, either from a set-play or simply having better players than most of the sides they'll come up against. It's the same tactic as Mourinho from 20 years ago, the key difference is the sides Arsenal are facing are better. And by that I don't just mean your Liverpool's or City's but the rest of the League as a whole. There's very few outright bad sides in the PL these days. When Chelsea would go 1-0 up under Mourinho it was game over, not just because Chelsea were so good defensively but because all but 4-5 sides were pretty rubbish. Almost every PL side these days has enough attacking quality to get a goal and cause even the best sides problems.
 
throw ins and corners are opportunities to score why not exploit them

Amazes me people moan about it, its a way to take an advantage over the opposition i couldnt care less how we win or get a result

The problem is that a few seasons back Arsenal were playing great, entertaining football but couldn't get over the line to win the title. Since then they have become defensively more solid, far less exciting to watch and rely far too heavily on set pieces for their goal threat. Personally I watch football to be entertained and Arsenal are regressing in that aspect. I wouldn't be massively happy about that.

If you don't care about how you win or get a result then why are you watching? You might as well just check the result after the game.
 
Fans can go wild because it looked like they were leaving with 0 points, but the mentality of the Arsenal players is alarming. You'd expect the players to grab the ball, leg it back to the half way line and push for a winner with 5 minutes to play for... but Martinelli decides to knee slide towards the fans because they got a draw at home?

You wouldn't expect to see City do that at the Etihad, or Liverpool at Anfield. Both those teams would chase the 3 points.
 
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And then Arteta subs another centre back on to see out the final moments.

Subbed on a centre back for the final free kick of the game come on dont try and make it out to be anything else

Take off a 5 foot midget zubimendi for a 6 foot 3 cb when a freekck is about to get dropped into the box
 
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How long was on the clock when he got subbed in

I swear arsenal live rent free in a lot of peoples heads

Guardiola literally changed his whole mentality to defend a 1-0 lead playing 5 at the back and its arteta getting pelters for bringing a cb on deep into injury time

Arent man cty meant to be chasing a title? Wheres all the media circus about them throwing away an away win by playing ultra defensive?

Oh of course not because it was arsenal who they were playing :o :o
 
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How long was on the clock when he got subbed in
I'm not sure what your point is? You didn't equalise until midway through stoppage time and the game didn't restart until 94mins.

And I just checked re my last post btw, Mosquera was ready and waiting to come on before the ref awarded City the free-kick. Trying to make out that he was just coming on to defend a free-kick is simply not true.
 
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