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Easily if it lands on your head
Chinese introduce brilliant safety feature - EV battery ejection!
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Easily if it lands on your head
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I think the two lads running to throwing a big chip pan fire blanket over the ejected pack was the best bit.
That’s unlikely to happen.Can we just sort out universal battery packs and automated swap stations first please, then I might be able to move to EV
In practice a swap station isn’t really any faster than cars with modern 5C batteries because when you use a charger, you can go and do other stuff like going for a wizz.
You are required to stay in your car when using a swap station so you’d need to park up and go for a wizz ( or what else else you might want to do) after you’ve swapped.
In other news CATL have just unveiled a 12C battery which will basically kill off the concept of a swap station in cars.
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Imagine a teenager driving along and their mate pressing the eject button for laughs.
It is the 2025 version of yanking the handbrake!
It is the 2025 version of yanking the handbrake!
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I don't need to go for a wizz. I just need to get my car fuelled up. I can't charge at home, so being able to fuel at close to the speed of filling my ICE car is a requirement.
They used to back in the day didn't they?
The simple solution is to have a wizz (glory) hole in the car.
Yes because airbags are triggered by pressing a big red button......
A 5C battery gets you pretty close to that.
The idea is you charge it when it’s parked somewhere which may or may not be outside your house.
In the long term, you’ll not be rapid charging cars for ‘daily use’. They’ll be slow charged when they are parked be that on the street or in a car park. It’s just so much cheaper to deploy.
It’s hard to see a path to where battery swapping or even rapid charging is going to be cost effective for those who don’t have a driveway because of the cost of the infrastructure and generally people will be wanting to use it at the same time.
That’s the Amazon delivery driver edition?
The only places my car gets parked is on the street somewhere near my house (for values of 'near' that vary massively), or in the middle of nowhere well away from electricity supply.
I am not yet seeing any evidence of ANY progress towards a usable EV charging infrastructure for people without off-street parking.
You aren’t going EV any time soon so you don’t need to worry about it. ICE cars will be available for a couple of decades yet, they just won’t be new.
There is progress, it’s just not in your area. At the end of the day, customers who are easier to serve are being served first and you’ll be one of the last. It’s not particularly difficult to deploy AC chargers on streets, there is plenty of it around certain parts of London for example. The focus is just on the rapid charging infrastructure at the moment.
You’ll be able to buy a new PHEV in 2034/5 so you’ve not got anything to get excited about any time soon.
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Sounds more like another opportunity for thieves to explore
Chinese have 3000 swap stations already, catering to mainly trucks, and some cars, they say it takes 5 mins to do the swap
It has its own pitfalls as well - like sometimes customers get a bad battery in the swap which doesn't have the mileage you'd expect. I think this is one of the hindrances to swap stations in the west, because you'd have to guarantee a minimum mileage that is fairly close to a new battery
A new fully charged EV battery in five minutes: Are China's swap stations the future of electric cars?
China has been trialling battery swaps for electric cars for years. Are they a viable solution to range anxiety?
www.bbc.com
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I’m well aware, I’m also aware of how much these things cost and are largely being super seeded by the batteries themselves getting a lot better which is largely negating the need for it.Chinese have 3000 swap stations already, catering to mainly trucks, and some cars, they say it takes 5 mins to do the swap
It has its own pitfalls as well - like sometimes customers get a bad battery in the swap which doesn't have the mileage you'd expect. I think this is the biggest hindrance to swap stations in the west, because you'd have to guarantee a minimum mileage that is fairly close to a new battery
A new fully charged EV battery in five minutes: Are China's swap stations the future of electric cars?
China has been trialling battery swaps for electric cars for years. Are they a viable solution to range anxiety?
There are articlorries on the roads in Europe with ‘all day’ range and they largely get by just fine with the regular 350kw ccs charging (as long as it actually delivers 350kw).
While they’ll get a 1mw option shortly, it doesn’t look like they’ll actually need it or battery swapping.
There are other issues with swapping, like the fact you don’t own the battery, you lease it. We established quite quickly that no one wants to own a used car with a battery lease.
You also need all yours cars to use the same battery with the same mounting points and work within the same performance envelope. That doesn’t really reflect the car market as it stands today where vehicles are all shapes, sizes, cost and performance.
Where battery swaps do work quite well is things like scooters where you can’t really get the range in such a small vehicle and putting in charging infrastructure is disproportionately expensive. Batteries in scooters can be swapped by hand in seconds. You don’t need a massive swap station and grid connection to facilitate it.
A 500lbs exploding fireball.
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