The rise of Ozempic

I've seen in person some people that have struggled with weight loss for years, some around a decade now able to lose the weight and people can see it working with ozempic/mounjaro etc though some of these people dont want it known that they are on it.

These people are finally getting results after spending years and £££ trying all sorts of meal plans, diets, clubs, gym, classes etc.. some had tried some pretty drastic things of which had to stop after suffering from mental/health issues from it though the long term use of these meds are unknown atm.
 
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You are right, i do lack the ability to understand why someone would allow their body to get in such a state. I guess thats why i am here, still Commentating.

Trying to wrap my head around it.
For the most part, that is an one in 1000 case. The majority of people that are overweight it is a simple case of food education, convenience and lack of willing to join a gym
It's not like everyone who's overweight doesn't know what they should do. If "lol, just eat less and join a gym" worked, the significant majority of the population wouldn't be overweight or obese. But they are, and it's a problem. Now we have a solution really helps, we need to use it.
It doesn't matter whether you understand why or not - it's kind of irrelevant, because it has happened.
 
It's not like everyone who's overweight doesn't know what they should do. If "lol, just eat less and join a gym" worked, the significant majority of the population wouldn't be overweight or obese. But they are, and it's a problem. Now we have a solution really helps, we need to use it.
It doesn't matter whether you understand why or not - it's kind of irrelevant, because it has happened.

There was always a solution, and it was free. Its just that most people do not realise just how much they eat, to hear most over weight people talk they hardly eat anything, and cannot understand why they do not lose weight and only gain it. A drug is not going to change this, 50% + of the population cannot rely on this drug for the rest of there lives.

Dont most people that lose weight on the drug and come off slowly put it back on? Something has to change, and its not going to be fixed by a drug.
 
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There was always a solution, and it was free. Its just that most people do not realise just how much they eat, to hear most over weight people talk they hardly eat anything, and cannot understand why they do not lose weight and only gain it. A drug is not going to change this, 50% + of the population cannot rely on this drug for the rest of there lives.
I think the vast majority of overweight people know exactly why they are overweight. The "free" solution simply hasn't worked, the stats say it for themselves.
I don't think we know yet whether they will have to rely on the drug indefinitely. But I'm not seeing winning argument about why they can't rely on it if they need to, either.
 
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There was always a solution, and it was free. Its just that most people do not realise just how much they eat, to hear most over weight people talk they hardly eat anything, and cannot understand why they do not lose weight and only gain it. A drug is not going to change this, 50% + of the population cannot rely on this drug for the rest of there lives.

Dont most people that lose weight on the drug and come off slowly put it back on? Something has to change, and its not going to be fixed by a drug.

Maybe you if spent more time on yourself instead of trying to bash other people to make yourself better, you would be more successful in your own life. No need to feel jealous that people can spend their own disposable income how they want.

No idea about the stats on weight gain after coming off it, its pretty new so there might not be figures out yet
 
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Maybe you if spent more time on yourself instead of trying to bash other people to make yourself better, you would be more successful in your own life. No need to feel jealous that people can spend their own disposable income how they want

I think you are a little confused, i am happy with what i have, i have a nice car, a house fully paid off and i have had zero inheritance to help me.

I work with what i have, but know i could have more if i wanted to, i just dont.

I am not jealous of what others have, i just dont like to see people use the money that i pay in taxes to get free drugs on the NHS because they do not want to lose weight by moving more and eating less.
 
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I think you are a little confused, i am happy with what i have, i have a nice car, a house fully paid off and i have had zero inheritance to help me.

I work with what i have, but know i could have more if i wanted to, i just dont.

In denial now are we, after all you bought it up as an issue, no one else did
 
In denial now are we, after all you bought it up as an issue, no one else did
what am i in denial about? i Brought it up because someone said, that i am MR perfect with no problems, i am not. i know i could do better i just do not, and i do not make an excuse, such as ADHD, autism, Bad schools, lack of time, etc. My issue is just that i have no interest in making more money.

If i was fat, i would say i was fat because i ate too much, and too much of the wrong foods and didnt move enough. I wouldnt say it was because i was diabetic, had a bad knee, slow metabalism or some such.

And just before anyone else steps in with some other silly comment, i make barely above minimum wage, i work with what i have, i do not make excuses about not buying a house for example and then go and eat out and drink every other day, and go on holidays 3 times a year... if you want to you can. Its simply because you do not want to *most of the time
 
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If you eat more calories than you need you will gain weight and vice versa. Its that simple right?

You can use TDEE calculator to see how many calories your body needs.

 
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what am i in denial about? i Brought it up because someone said, that i am MR perfect with no problems, i am not. i know i could do better i just do not, and i do not make an excuse, such as ADHD, autism, Bad schools, lack of time, etc. My issue is just that i have no interest in making more money.

If i was fat, i would say i was fat because i ate too much, and too much of the wrong foods and didnt move enough. I wouldnt say it was because i was diabetic, had a bad knee, slow metabalism or some such.

I have never said such a thing, I stated in this actual thread for me it was portion sizes and addiction to sugar that was my cause. I think you are the one that is confused
 
There was always a solution, and it was free. Its just that most people do not realise just how much they eat, to hear most over weight people talk they hardly eat anything, and cannot understand why they do not lose weight and only gain it. A drug is not going to change this, 50% + of the population cannot rely on this drug for the rest of there lives.

Dont most people that lose weight on the drug and come off slowly put it back on? Something has to change, and its not going to be fixed by a drug.
Most people live sedentary lifestyles sat in an office, at the same time we are constantly bombarded with extremely effective marketing encouraging us to eat ridiculously calorie dense food and drinks. It's generally cheaper to feed yourself and your family processed crap from the supermarket as well so there are all sorts of socioeconomic factors at play as well.

It's a system problem that needs a systemic solution. Expecting individuals to 'just stop lol' is about as effective as saying 'just don't do crime bro'.

Personally I'd see the sugar tax tripled (or more) and all sugary sweets and drinks put behind the counter, ban all advertising for junk food. You can still buy your pack of Skittles but you've got to get it in a plain packet with an image of a diabetic ulcer on the front. That would solve the problem.
 
I never said you, i said" someone said" and then you brought it up. I am just responding.

Im not sure anyone on here said they hardly eat anything and dont undertsand why they are fat. Diabetics use these jabs to lower blood sugar etc. its not an excuse, its a fundamental misunderstanding on your part

Also, the vast majority of people on these jabs do so paid out of their own pocket on private prescriptions, so the cost to the NHS and by extension your taxes is minimal
 
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Most people live sedentary lifestyles sat in an office, at the same time we are constantly bombarded with extremely effective marketing encouraging us to eat ridiculously calorie dense food and drinks. It's generally cheaper to feed yourself and your family processed crap from the supermarket as well so there are all sorts of socioeconomic factors at play as well.

It's a system problem that needs a systemic solution. Expecting individuals to 'just stop lol' is about as effective as saying 'just don't do crime bro'.

Personally I'd see the sugar tax tripled (or more) and all sugary sweets and drinks put behind the counter, ban all advertising for junk food. You can still buy your pack of Skittles but you've got to get it in a plain packet with an image of a diabetic ulcer on the front. That would solve the problem.

I do think a lot of people hugely under estimate just how many calories they drink, some of the calories that can be found in liquids alone are shocking
 
Im not sure anyone on here said they hardly eat anything and dont undertsand why they are fat. Diabetics use these jabs to lower blood sugar etc. its not an excuse, its a fundamental misunderstanding on your part

Also, the vast majority of people on these jabs do so paid out of their own pocket on private prescriptions, so the cost to the NHS and by extension your taxes is minimal

and by extension a large portion of these diabetics that are on these drugs are because of the weight they gained before they became diabetic which caused them to get the condition in the first place
 
Why do people with weight issues get so edgy about it when called out?

The magic drugs wont help you when you come off them, you need to develop correct eating habbits rather than take a drug for the rest of your life.

I don't know if people can stay on these drugs literally for life. As far as I understood it, it is interrupting the signal/messages your brain would normally receive about hunger. If that truly is all it is doing then I can't see why it couldn't be taken for life if that works for people, assuming they continue to get all the nutrients they need to sustain themselves. The problem is we don't know the long term side effects or issues associated with it yet for say someone that has been on it 2 decades I guess.

I think the idea is that you use it in combination with life style changes, more exercise and then once down to a weight, gradually wean yourself off of it. I expect this is hard when the hunger signals come back.
 
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