COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Rroff said:
As noted unfortunately previous built up immunity is less useful against them, though they mostly seem mild.
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Not pointing this at you before I say this, but rather at the BBC articule.

Mostly seem mild? I'd be willing to bet that there will be people dying of this again, whatever strain I have is absolutely awful and the stress its putting on my lungs and heart is quite worrying, considering im mid 30's too, it seems bonkers for this to be downplayed as "mostly mild".
If overall its mostly mild, great for the country, but whatever I've got has the potential to kill or change the life of those with a weaker immune system.
Given my dad who had weak lungs and heart in his last few years before passing in Feb 2024, I can assure you if he caught this, he'd be in hospital, maybe worse.

Article also states: "Hospital admissions linked to Covid are also going up."
So hospital admissions going up, but its milder than it was? Logic has exited the building.
 
sidimmu said:
Article also states: "Hospital admissions linked to Covid are also going up."
So hospital admissions going up, but its milder than it was? Logic has exited the building.
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Not really. It can be generally mild but as you say still hit those susceptible to it hard and therefore increase admissions as cases go up now we're into the cooler weather
 
tom_e said:
Not really. It can be generally mild but as you say still hit those susceptible to it hard and therefore increase admissions as cases go up now we're into the cooler weather
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Yup

"Most cases are mild" still leaves a lot of cases that are going to be harsh, hence why the government still gives the free covid jab to those most clinically at risk, and those who are just plain unlucky.

I've got to take my father for his jab this afternoon, and I'm going to book a private one for myself because I can't afford to be unwell if I'm going to manage to look after him (we all had the flu about 3 years ago and honestly I'm not sure how I coped, especially when I had to take him to the hospital).
 
UTmaniac said:
Mone business court ruling from their poor quality covid PPE will put some cash in the government kitty, £122M plus interest.

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Company will be wound up tomorrow and no money will be repaid - almost certainly that will happen.

All assets will be moved to a new company and nothing done to repay the funds.

None of that will ever be paid back.

Directors / Mone / husband etc should be struck off - but again - won't happen.
 
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booyaka said:
Company will be wound up tomorrow and no money will be repaid - almost certainly that will happen.

All assets will be moved to a new company and nothing done to repay the funds.

None of that will ever be paid back.

Directors / Mone / husband etc should be struck off - but again - won't happen.
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That happened before the court ruling. However does this now open up for redress from ALL the other companies. Mone is just the poster child.
 
What sort of person comes out with something like this:

"Michelle Mone - To use a simple analogy, if a car looks, feels, and drives like, say, a Range Rover, then unless you can show how the car is assembled by the manufacturer, it’s not a Range Rover!"
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How is that even a valid analogy, loads of sub par companies had been making non certifiable medical equipment to cash in on COVID, whereas only one company makes Range Rovers.

I mean they deserved to lose the case, but this just makes it funnier, hopefully if they refuse to pay cause the business is wound up then the Gov go after then personally.
 
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tom_e said:
Not really. It can be generally mild but as you say still hit those susceptible to it hard and therefore increase admissions as cases go up now we're into the cooler weather
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I whole heartedly disagree with this.
What does milder even mean? Less lethal? How does using more resources indicate something is milder/weaker?

I'm a 36 year old, who's just used ambulance resources today and currently in hospital combatting this along with my asthma going absolutely mental.
Going to be here a few days I suspect.
 
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While most people have had it mild, several of my colleagues have been very ill last week with whatever is going around (9 of them bad enough to take time off work) and my dad had it fairly bad. One of my older colleagues said her neighbours thought she'd snuffed it because she was too unwell to answer the door - said it was the worst she has ever been ill.

So far managed to dodge whatever it is, so far.
 
Rroff said:
While most people have had it mild, several of my colleagues have been very ill last week with whatever is going around (9 of them bad enough to take time off work) and my dad had it fairly bad. One of my older colleagues said her neighbours thought she'd snuffed it because she was too unwell to answer the door - said it was the worst she has ever been ill.

So far managed to dodge whatever it is, so far.
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Curious if it is because of this:

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid cases rising with new variants 'Nimbus' and 'Stratus'

Unwell with a bad throat and temperature? You may have one of the new Covid strains circulating this autumn.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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sidimmu said:
I whole heartedly disagree with this.
What does milder even mean? Less lethal? How does using more resources indicate something is milder/weaker?

I'm a 36 year old, who's just used ambulance resources today and currently in hospital combatting this along with my asthma going absolutely mental.
Going to be here a few days I suspect.
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You have a condition that makes you fall into the "vulnerable" camp sadly. I hope you get better soon and it's not too problematic for you, but I think to Tom's point it's generally that for most people without any conditions they will largely be unaffected or mildly affected. That doesn't mean to say that people like yourself and others with conditions aren't going to get hit harder sadly :(

Like it or not statistics are generally used to qualify majority of the status quo, and because the majority fall under the "mild impact" category that's the way the news plays it. I'm not saying it's right or correct, but there's also some relevance to not being too alarmist either which can cause more issues possible.
 
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Update: so I actually feel back to my normal self today. After the best part of 9 days. After my slight adventure to hospital they decided not to keep me.

Advised to rest/paracetamol and let my body recover. There’s a lot of naysayers on the socials that believe Covid is not a thing. I can first hand say that this isn’t normal winter flu/cold. It’s something much more different especially if you’ve a weakened immune system.

Glad it’s somewhat over until the next time.
 
Vita said:
Update: so I actually feel back to my normal self today. After the best part of 9 days. After my slight adventure to hospital they decided not to keep me.

Advised to rest/paracetamol and let my body recover. There’s a lot of naysayers on the socials that believe Covid is not a thing. I can first hand say that this isn’t normal winter flu/cold. It’s something much more different especially if you’ve a weakened immune system.

Glad it’s somewhat over until the next time.
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Glad you're feeling improved. There's a lot of COVID going around at the moment ; plenty of colleagues at hospital who've had it and some have experienced complications eg. vestibular neuritis, asthma.
 
Hagar said:
At least you checked, many people appear not to have and a few are getting abusive. Very sad.
I am 73 with COPD and I don't qualify either but that's life.

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I can't understand why they're so restricted unless they're in a) very short supply worldwide or b) very expensive because its far more common than influenza and yet its flu jabs that are abundant and covid, well they're rarer than hen's teeth.
 
Gotta say, you should be using nasal sprays like Vick's first defense. There isn't much literary evidence directly against covid but for colds/flu its the bees knees at having a chance at stopping you getting it entirely if you think you've been exposed. And, if you do, symptom period is reduced by a third. As covid behaves mostly the same way in the way it enters and exits the body no reason to think sprays won't work.

One of the worst things about being ill for me is the bunged up nose feeling and these sprays entirely remove that symptom for me, as well as the running nose.
 
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I can only guess, but in my experience First Defence is probably only around 30%, maybe 40%, effective, I used it a fair bit in the past and sometimes it seemed to work and sometimes it didn't.

I've no idea how I've dodged the stuff going around the last 2-3 weeks, though I did have 1-2 days in there where I felt under the weather so maybe just had it really mildly and shrugged it off. Possibly what I had a few weeks back gave me some immunity. I'm guessing it is COVID as while most have had it mild some have had a really rough time with it with a couple of people going to hospital and some others saying they were close to having to get medical attention.
 
Rroff said:
I can only guess, but in my experience First Defence is probably only around 30%, maybe 40%, effective, I used it a fair bit in the past and sometimes it seemed to work and sometimes it didn't.

I've no idea how I've dodged the stuff going around the last 2-3 weeks, though I did have 1-2 days in there where I felt under the weather so maybe just had it really mildly and shrugged it off. Possibly what I had a few weeks back gave me some immunity. I'm guessing it is COVID as while most have had it mild some have had a really rough time with it with a couple of people going to hospital and some others saying they were close to having to get medical attention.
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40% is your average flu vaccine so that's pretty damn good in combination.
 
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