This morning's Zwift robo pacer ride was flagged by Strava, with a message saying my 'GPS had a bad day'. First time I've had this happen - it's probably down to using the teleport to jump back to the RP group, but I've done this plenty of times before so something seems to have changed.
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If it’s any better I’m telling myself I don’t need it but I keep checking to see if it’s still there!
It’s just the stories of them breaking and it being used that’s putting me off
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I've had a couple of robopacer rides flagged in the last month, when I've teleported 2+ times and supposedly my avatar has hit approx 42mph.
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It’s an old 105 (well, from 2007 ish) derailleur.
Did some tweaking and it seems to be a lot better now than before. Managed to get the front one working well enough for the trainer too although it did slip off once yesterday.
It is a 10 speed so I fitted the spacer when setting up the Kickr.
It's good that Strava make an effort to spot weird data (and I wish Zwift put in more effort to spot cheaters/abusers). Strava got back to me promptly and it sounds like their AI got a bit over-enthusiastic and started flagging a whole activity instead of just the specific segment with a discontinuity. The advice was to use 'fix altitude' which sorted it.
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Strava 'AI' flagging it utter tosh. I still get emails of people taking KOMs, when they've been doing 70 odd mph down an A road or even motorway.
Agreed, and I doubt anyone really believes the segment leaderboards. But I'm not sure what else Strava can practically do though - they seem to flag activities with obviously 'broken' data but AFAICS otherwise leave the flagging to users. I suppose there is the question of how implausible should an activity be before it is automatically flagged, but I guess the more they flag the more effort is then needed to resolve the complaints.
The ridiculous thing is that you could do a reasonable job with some very very basic if statements in the code.
I don't think people care about the ones that could be dodgy. They care about the one by the guy who bumbles around at 20km/h average then magically puts in a Pogacar level effort in the middle of their completely normal ride. Or when they go at a speed that would suggest they have managed to put out 1500w for 5 min.
I don't think people care about the ones that could be dodgy. They care about the one by the guy who bumbles around at 20km/h average then magically puts in a Pogacar level effort in the middle of their completely normal ride. Or when they go at a speed that would suggest they have managed to put out 1500w for 5 min.
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Speak for yourself! Our leaderboards around here are all totally credible!
It’s pretty obvious when someone shouldn’t be at the top. When all of their other rides are 15mph or so, and suddenly they KOM a load of long and tough segments. Usually no HR or power data too.
Fair enough, just going off what I've seen which TBH are the Zwift routes.Speak for yourself! Our leaderboards around here are all totally credible!
It’s pretty obvious when someone shouldn’t be at the top. When all of their other rides are 15mph or so, and suddenly they KOM a load of long and tough segments. Usually no HR or power data too.
I just had another example of someone pottering along at 69bpm doing exactly 400W/5.7wpg and wearing segment jerseys. It annoys me more than it probably should that Zwift can't be bothered to stop the obvious cases.
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Oh yeh Zwift segments pretty much are all complete rubbish. I’m talking about real life
I was slogging up the Radio Tower climb the other week and another "rider" on the list was sitting at constant 5.6w/kg all the way up. And all the way back down the climb.
new trainer arrived and i jumped straight in to a race, good news i was able to hold highger power for longer and i stuck up over 220w mark for the first 15km where before i was getting dropped at that pace at the 7-8km mark. However i still couldn't hold up the full race distance, so going to be going completely back to basics, re-focus on getting in the distance and following a more structured approach to training rather then just jump on and race and then do a long ride at weekends.
Session planning
1xsweet spot
1xthreshold
2x endurance session per week
all planned using chatgpt and loaded in to intervals.icu to then load up in to zwift.
its time to get the volume in and get back to where i was.
Session planning
1xsweet spot
1xthreshold
2x endurance session per week
all planned using chatgpt and loaded in to intervals.icu to then load up in to zwift.
its time to get the volume in and get back to where i was.
So hang on, you're saying you did lose X Watts in FTP overnight? It wasn't an issue with the trainer?
No, one session back on the bike isnt enough to confirm that, what has happened since the overnight drop (July) is that ive had a 2 week holiday and with every session i had since the drop and after holiday my motivation has been taking a hit.
Wahoo have confirmed there was an issue with the trainer but didnt expand on the details, and given that i was able to hold a pace +20w over where i have been for double the distance recently it indicates that there is a difference between old and new trainer.
However, what is also likely is that i have lost some fitness due to the holiday + decreased motivation leading to less time on the bike since the end of august and September.
So now its time to kick myself up the behind, add structure to my training again, stop racing so i dont have that demotivator (especially now all the summer riders are jumping back on and the pace in my racing brackets is insane seeing an average +0.4-0.6 w/kg increase in standard across the field).
If all this aligns, it shouldnt take too long for relative performance to return. So lets see how things are in 4-8 weeks.
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Bloody Zwift Ride is another £100 off at the moment! 
doooo it you wont regret itBloody Zwift Ride is another £100 off at the moment!
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I already did! Done a few hundred miles on it already.
