TV Licence Super Thread

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Almost all the convictions are people being tricked in to admitting something on the doorstep or just not turning up to court.
that's the common parlance/misconception in my opinion, in the absence of open court records (that chatgpt might summarise)
at your workplace , your phone has been used to access Iplayer content, here is a court order to hand it over
 
at your workplace , your phone has been used to access Iplayer content, here is a court order to hand it over
I doubt it works so easily


all the bbc will have is an IP address? they don;t know how to identify individual phones?
 
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that's the common parlance/misconception in my opinion, in the absence of open court records (that chatgpt might summarise)
at your workplace , your phone has been used to access Iplayer content, here is a court order to hand it over

You would have reasonable grounds to refuse based on the fact the device contains sensitive/personal data. They aren't an authority with any powers to force access, even with a warrant.

It would need to be a much more serious crime (a real crime) for a court to grant access to someone's phone and it would only be handled by the police, or security services etc.
 
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all the bbc will have is an IP address? they don;t know how to identify individual phones?
if the phone has a SIM with contract&billing address that part should be easy from associated carrier -
paedophiles (yes a crime on another level) their material access can be followed, silk road guy recently freed by trump didn't get away with it, also, AI soon helping police put jigsaw pieces together.
The cases on IPTV premier league illicit viewing - viewer received cease&decist orders.

e: ie. mirroring your phone iplayer material on tv - if that works - wouldn't be a free-pass
 
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if the phone has a SIM with contract&billing address that part should be easy from associated carrier -
but they dont just hand it over because the BBC asks, and the police don;t hjust get a warrant because the bbc says this person could be watching live tv.

If I access this website through a mobile phone for example, the website will only know the IP and possibly what type of device connected? theres nothing to identify the device other than the browser used kinda thing?

I don't watch live tv or english stuff anyway, so I'm just curious.

I know mac address exist, IDK if phone shave them or if websites can log/see them, but you;'d still need a warrant to get the actual device and tie it to a person.
the police aren';t supposed to aid the BBC in evidence gathering anyway if they can't confirm someone is guilty with their own real solid evidence?
 
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but they dont just hand it over because the BBC asks, and the police don;t hjust get a warrant because the bbc says this person could be watching live tv.

If I access this website through a mobile phone for example, the website will only know the IP and possibly what type of device connected? theres nothing to identify the device other than the browser used kinda thing?

I don't watch live tv or english stuff anyway, so I'm just curious.

I know mac address exist, IDK if phone shave them or if websites can log/see them, but you;'d still need a warrant to get the actual device and tie it to a person.
the police aren';t supposed to aid the BBC in evidence gathering anyway if they can't confirm someone is guilty with their own real solid evidence?

Mac addresses and IPs can easily be spoofed. People using a VPN (most people now lol) aren't going to be identifiable using them. They would still need to link it to an individual, you can't take a device or address to court.
 
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If I access this website through a mobile phone for example, the website will only know the IP and possibly what type of device connected? theres nothing to identify the device other than the browser used kinda thing?
If using a browser then 'Fingerprinting' is about all a provider can do without getting warranties (for an ISP subscriber/household etc), which is useful for tracking (still a best guest) of a device but that's about it.
One website to give you an idea - https://amiunique.org/fingerprint.

It's a different story with apps where it's possible to uniquely identify a device and potentially the user/owner.

I know mac address exist...
MAC addresses are typically out of scope of the data available to a website via a browser although again apps change this. MAC address randomisation, deployed by some OS's, does change the usefulness of them though but with enough data points you can generate a 'fingerprint' for a device.
 
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Some browsers have anti-fingerprinting built in now. It just sents crap, standard information back so a device can't be tracked
 
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I don't think the goon who produces the capita evasion videos would understand finger printing

really for mobile/electronic devices (versus aerial received transmission) iplayer could provide bullet proof access just to those who have configured an account like I might do for netflix/sky/tnt,
linked with a bbc account number (versus dummy email and address I use now)
with more pervasive freely hybrid interface where some c4 programs (the examples I'd seen) can only be received via the internet - the aerial is becoming obsolete.
Parent just watch freeview stuff via sky, for example, anyway.
 
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really for mobile/electronic devices (versus aerial received transmission) iplayer could provide bullet proof access just to those who have configured an account like I might do for netflix/sky/tnt,
I'm sure if they really wanted to stop people using iPlayer with that, they would've done it by now.
 
maybe it's a weird corner of the BBC remit/legislation, but, todays announcement of bbc distributing legacy stuff (not sure I need to watch red dwarf again, but hitchhikers on the other hand)
via channel 4 app.

Although I'ved used free channel 4 app with adds, I haven't noticed it cuts down either video or audio quality vs paid premium (watching cycling on tnt versus c4/quest is definitely better for viewing pleasure.)
 
Cancelling because I don't watch live TV. I ain't paying 145 quid just to watch Top Gear live. That can wait till it's on iPlayer. My PC TV isn't tuned and there is no aerial socket in that same room. The TV downstairs I can detune but it be probably easier if I just give that TV to a relative as that does have an aerial socket behind it so as long as I ditch that TV I assume the licensing monkeys will be fine with this?

Isnt iPlayer completely licensed? Not just "live" on iPlayer???
 
RIP MTV - never knew that Sting sang lyric I want my MTV ,
used to be what you watched when you came in from club
 
If you have no TV License you cannot watch the BBC iPlayer.

We had a letter stating we was using it when we didn't, we asked for a list of what was watched and when but they never provided it even though they did.

When we called they said that the e mail address used matched the 1 we had on our account and when they e mailed us the details the e mail address was a gmail account so it was not even our account.

The thing is when signing up there is nothing stopping you selecting any address you like so anyone can sign up with your address.

We went around and removed it from every TV, deleted our BBC account as changing your password does not stop them using the account and no longer use their site for anything,
 
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