60 Year Old Gamer looking for advise on new Base Unit

Superdee1893 · Friday at 14:03

Hi All, been gaming since the 80's ( Vic 20 was my first one lol ) ...looking to upgrade my 6 year old base unit , saw this , wondering what your thoughts are and what improvements i can tweak , flexible on price but has to be off the shelf or custom build by a Pc specialist .... mostly used for gaming ..currently playing Elden Ring
Thanks for any advice

Processor (CPU)

Intel Core i7 14700KF
20 Cores | 28 Threads
Base Frequency: 3.4 GHz
Boost Frequency: 5.6 GHz

CPU Cooler

360mm AIO Liquid Cooler
Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360 Core II
3 x 120mm Fan(s)

Motherboard

Gigabyte B760 GAMING X WIFI6E GEN5
Intel B760 Chipset

Network

Ethernet Up to 2.5Gbps
Bluetooth 5.3

Graphics

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070
12GB VRAM

Memory (RAM)

64GB DDR5 6000MT/s
2 x 32GB Modules
Latency CL36

Case

HYTE Y60
Black
Tempered Glass Side Panel

Physical Dimensions

Width: 285mm
Height: 456mm
Depth: 462mm

Front Ports

1 x USB-C 3.1
2 x USB 3.0
1 x 3.5mm COMBO Jack - Headphone
Shared with Headphone - Microphone

Operating System

Microsoft Windows 11 Home

Power Supply

Gigabyte UD850GM PG5
850W
80 Plus Gold

Warranty

5 Years Includes:
3 Years On Site
2 Years Labour
UK Mainland*

Storage

2TB Kingston NV3
PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe
Solid State Drive (SSD)

Rear Ports

1 x USB 3.1
1 x USB-C 3.0
1 x USB 3.0
5 x USB 2.0
4 x 3.5mm Jacks - Line Out
1 x RJ-45 Ethernet

Stock Code

CBS-EDGE-Y60-ND

Tetras · Friday at 14:34

Superdee1893 said:
wondering what your thoughts are and what improvements i can tweak

It'll do the job but:
- That's a premium case (i.e. not cheap).
- The CPU may or may not be good for the longer-term (Intel says their last microcode updates are final/problem is fixed, but who knows).
- A 'budget' SSD with variable parts and not great rated endurance.
- The graphics card may be impacted by the limited VRAM in the future, similar to how the 3070 is by 8GB now.

If I was going Intel, I'd get a 265K instead. If I was going AMD, ideally a 7800X3D or 9800X3D.

hornetstinger · Friday at 14:38

I wouldn't buy a Intel 13th/14th gen, they have CPU degradation issue...maybe why he's selling it

Superdee1893 · Friday at 16:23

Appreciate your time in answering, slightly compicates it (hoping u would say go for it lol )but thanks for the info and makes me look to upgrade certain items ...cheers

DHR · Friday at 17:23

I'd dust the vic20 off, great machines, do love myself a bit of blitz

As above, from recent experience I'm sticking clear of Intel, they're on the up again but have had a patchy couple of years.

Dare say the folk on here in would spec you something to have built of you let them know what you're playing etc.

Space Monkey · Friday at 22:04

@Superdee1893

So is £2000 about your budget for this PC?

sastusbulbas · Saturday at 10:06

@Superdee1893

As mentioned, we need a budget and use scenario to be of more help, I would certainly not be buying that PC based on the CPU, recent Bios fixes have meant to have addressed this but even a quick Google on "Intel Core i7 14700KF degradation" shows it can still have issues. It's worth you yourself having a Google and coffee to read up on all that.
Pretty much any PC these days needs BIOS updates, so you will need to be comfortable with that or have somewhere to do it for you. Pretty much any pre-built has compromises.

Currently the go to has been AMD this year, for CPU and GPU.
And nothing wrong with a fancy case, I am planning on something nice myself this year, just can't make my mind up and have 5.25 bay desire.

Based on the spec you have, a custom built PC would be far better value, but again you may well be over specifying the build, 64gb of memory is a hell of a lot. How many cores do you think you need? What other uses does the PC do on a daily basis? I'm sure Overclockers UK and most of the forum members would be very helpful.

I would list a budget, your current PC specification, your monitor resolution, do you want RGB fans and memory? As gaming seems to be your priority below is a more capable system based on the spec you listed. Bear in mind 32gb of memory, can be changed to RGB or 64gb. A little more money and slightly higher spec would be a 9800X3D and MSI B850 Tomahawk, though depending on resolution and game choices, you may be paying a premium on a CPU that offers little in performance over a 7800X3D or 9700x.

If you are using 64gb of memory and need a lot of cores, the 9900x is a viable option too.

Bear in mind, if your needs are not that demanding, and you mainly play older titles, you may well find a 6 core 7600x with 32gb of memory and even a 9060 XT 16gb may be all you need. Will till look great in that case. And yes, I am the sort that would quite happily build the PC based on what I actually need currently and upgrade if it's apparent.

And with all that in mind, you can also see Overclockers have complete PC systems including gaming, just not very many exciting cases.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £349.99
1 x Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite WIFI7 (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03856) = £190.00
1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £149.99
1 x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-24R-SA) = £149.98
1 x Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360 Core II ARGB All In One CPU Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-CLM-04370) = £81.95
1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £555.00
1 x Be Quiet! Power Zone 2 850W ATX 3.1 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply (SKU: POW-BEQ-04388) = £129.95
1 x HYTE Y60 Dual Chamber Mid-Tower ATX Case - Black (SKU: CA-006-HY) = £179.99

Total: £1,798.84 (includes delivery: £11.98)

Quartz · Saturday at 11:39

Superdee1893 said:
Intel Core i7 14700KF

No. Avoid the Intel 13000 and 14000 series CPUs as they have well-known problems with degredation.

Given your likely budget, look at the Ryzen 9800X3D and you won't need a big expensive AIO - a Peerless Assassin tower cooler will suffice. 64 GB is overkill, but if you're going to buy it, now is the time to do so.

As for the case, the Havn BF360 has just been launched:

Superdee1893 · Saturday at 12:15

Wow , thanks for all your replies , my budget is around £2000 but flexible , just looking for a more than half decent PC base unit , mostly for gaming , my current system is about 6 years old , it just about plays Elden Ring ok ,with the occasional crash but the system is soooo slow , just wanting something that i can play my games on at a good speed and graphically good , prefer FPS games but hoping the unit will last 6 or 7 years

hornetstinger · Saturday at 12:17

Superdee1893 said:
Wow , thanks for all your replies , my budget is around £2000 but flexible , just looking for a more than half decent PC base unit , mostly for gaming , my current system is about 6 years old , it just about plays Elden Ring ok ,with the occasional crash but the system is soooo slow , just wanting something that i can play my games on at a good speed and graphically good , prefer FPS games but hoping the unit will last 6 or 7 years

You could reuse some parts, typically the case, hard drives or PSU that would save some money

Gray2233 · Saturday at 13:55

If you contact OCUK directly you could get this built for less than £2000 as a superior gaming build:

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Gigabyte Aorus 7300 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-GIG-05732) = £119.99
1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £555.00
1 x Lian Li Edge Gold 750W Black Power Supply (SKU: POW-LIA-03766) = £85.99
1 x Antec CX600M ARGB M-ATX Mini Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-04160) = £54.95
1 x Thermalright Aqua Elite 360 Black ARGB V3 All In One CPU Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03256) = £49.99
1 x PNY XLR8 Gaming EPIC-X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-PNY-04563) = £109.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Six Core 4.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-04829) = £280.00
1 x Sapphire Pulse B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05692) = £129.95

Total: £1,397.84 (includes delivery: £11.98)

It's M-ATX as that's my preference.

Some points:

- The AiO isn't necessary so you could save £20 by going with a Peerless Assassin or similar.
- The 7600X3D is a great gaming CPU, but you could bump up to the 9800X3D for another £120 and get the best, or save roughly £100 by dropping down to a 9600/7600 and still have a very capable processor.
- A regular midi-tower could be built for a similar cost if you're not into M-ATX.
- I've not included Windows, it massively eats into your budget when purchased retail, it's extremely easy to install via USB and keys can be had for a tenner.
- There will be a build fee, but you'll get store warranty etc and it should still be less than £2000.

Superdee1893 · Saturday at 20:35

Thanks for all the info ...appreciate all the effort , had an option sent of a build ...not disrespecting the advice and i am so grateful for it , but before i buy , any thoughts ? ..even minor upgrades

1 x Gigabyte Aorus 7300 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-GIG-05732) = £119.99
1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £555.00
1 x Lian Li Edge Gold 750W Black Power Supply (SKU: POW-LIA-03766) = £85.99
1 x Antec CX600M ARGB M-ATX Mini Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-04160) = £54.95
1 x Thermalright Aqua Elite 360 Black ARGB V3 All In One CPU Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03256) = £49.99
1 x PNY XLR8 Gaming EPIC-X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-PNY-04563) = £109.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Six Core 4.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-04829) = £280.00
1 x Sapphire Pulse B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05692) = £129.95

Tetras · Saturday at 20:41

Superdee1893 said:
any thoughts ? ..even minor upgrades

One thing to be aware of is that the Lian Li has an unusual shape and I don't know how it will play with the case.

sastusbulbas · 2025-10-12T04:21:02+0100

Tetras said:
One thing to be aware of is that the Lian Li has an unusual shape and I don't know how it will play with the case.

The Antec CX600 is a dual chamber where the fan is on the outside panel and room for a 240mm PSU aparenty which sits side on on a small ledge, the Lian Li Edge should if anything be easier than a standard ATX as it's edge connection is simply side on and easy to access. It's one on a shortlist for my lads upgrades next year if he decides to replace the NZXT C750.

I think the Lian LI Edge PSU was actually designed for dual chamber cases. You can see how it looks here https://www.techpowerup.com/324182/...-chamber-cases-with-the-edge-series#g324182-8

Certainly a nice range of PSU's if reviews and pictures are anything to go by, reasonably priced too.

sastusbulbas · 2025-10-12T04:52:05+0100

Superdee1893 said:
Thanks for all the info ...appreciate all the effort , had an option sent of a build ...not disrespecting the advice and i am so grateful for it , but before i buy , any thoughts ? ..even minor upgrades

With SuperDee's build, I would prefer a 7800X3D over the 7600X3D and run it with an air cooler and Lian Li Edge Gold 850w PSU which is only £10 more, simply for the headroom and any future upgrade.

Though we still do not know what monitor or resolution your running which is kind of critical when advising on a CPU/GPU.

With a game like Elden Ring you could be hitting 90fps maybe even over 100fps at 1440p with a 7600x and 9060 XT 16gb, and also be capable of running some games at 4k on high settings too.And if you play at 1080p with no cares you may never need more.

I myself am not a fan of RGB, though I do not mind a static glow, I also feel I am missing out by having never owned a Thermalright cooler, but these are all the rage, more popular than oversized kids trampoline's in a housing estate, and from what I have read an AIO is pretty much overkill for some of these AMD processors, and more of an aesthetic.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Lian Li Edge Gold 850W Black Power Supply (SKU: POW-LIA-03764) = £95.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £349.99
1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02665) = £29.99
1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black Dual Tower CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03280) = £39.95
1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO ARGB Dual Tower CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03290) = £44.98

Total: £568.90 (includes delivery: £7.99)

Gray2233 · 2025-10-12T11:33:55+0100

sastusbulbas said:
With SuperDee's build, I would prefer a 7800X3D over the 7600X3D and run it with an air cooler and Lian Li Edge Gold 850w PSU which is only £10 more, simply for the headroom and any future upgrade.

Though we still do not know what monitor or resolution your running which is kind of critical when advising on a CPU/GPU.

With a game like Elden Ring you could be hitting 90fps maybe even over 100fps at 1440p with a 7600x and 9060 XT 16gb, and also be capable of running some games at 4k on high settings too.And if you play at 1080p with no cares you may never need more.

I myself am not a fan of RGB, though I do not mind a static glow, I also feel I am missing out by having never owned a Thermalright cooler, but these are all the rage, more popular than oversized kids trampoline's in a housing estate, and from what I have read an AIO is pretty much overkill for some of these AMD processors, and more of an aesthetic.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Lian Li Edge Gold 850W Black Power Supply (SKU: POW-LIA-03764) = £95.99

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £349.99

1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02665) = £29.99

1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black Dual Tower CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03280) = £39.95

1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO ARGB Dual Tower CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03290) = £44.98

Total: £568.90 (includes delivery: £7.99)

At £350 I'd argue the 7800X3D is a poor price point, I'd personally rather save £70 in favour of the 7600X3D or spend the extra £50 on the 9800X3D.

sastusbulbas · 2025-10-12T15:21:09+0100

Gray2233 said:
At £350 I'd argue the 7800X3D is a poor price point, I'd personally rather save £70 in favour of the 7600X3D or spend the extra £50 on the 9800X3D.

Yeah you could, it all depends on what you value. All the X3D CPU's currently have good savings.

But we still do not know at what resolution the OP is playing. A 9800X3D is giving zero performance over a 7600x if you take Hardware Unboxed CPU/GPU scaling articles to heart and play Elden Ring at 4k 60hz on a TV.

Sale prices play a big part as does actual monitor and games played.

Nelly · 2025-10-12T17:53:35+0100

Superdee1893 said:
Appreciate your time in answering, slightly compicates it (hoping u would say go for it lol )but thanks for the info and makes me look to upgrade certain items ...cheers

Pity this doesn't come in all dark blue, or dark blue external with white internal, then you could have a Dundee FC case lol >> https://www.overclockers.co.uk/hyte...er-atx-case-blueberry-milk-cas-hyt-03190.html

pastymuncher · 2025-10-13T14:41:50+0100

sastusbulbas said:
The Antec CX600 is a dual chamber where the fan is on the outside panel and room for a 240mm PSU aparenty which sits side on on a small ledge, the Lian Li Edge should if anything be easier than a standard ATX as it's edge connection is simply side on and easy to access. It's one on a shortlist for my lads upgrades next year if he decides to replace the NZXT C750.

I think the Lian LI Edge PSU was actually designed for dual chamber cases. You can see how it looks here https://www.techpowerup.com/324182/...-chamber-cases-with-the-edge-series#g324182-8

Certainly a nice range of PSU's if reviews and pictures are anything to go by, reasonably priced too.

If the psu is mounted the correct way so that it draws air from outside the case through the side panel that stupid edge connector will also be facing the side panel so the cables will have to do a 180 degree bend to get into the case. It's a ridiculous design dreamed up by Lian Li for a problem that never existed. A conventional psu makes far more sense.