TV Licence Super Thread

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jaybee said:
Yeah he watches live sport most weekends.
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They would need actual proof that he is watching live TV, something like videoing him through his window while he's watching sport on the weekend. (Or him admitting to it if he answered the door when/if they visit)

Having a Virgin cable box or a Sky TV dish on your house is not proof so they can't use this. This is also mentioned on chilijohncarne.
 
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MartinPrince said:
They would need actual proof that he is watching live TV, something like videoing him through his window while he's watching sport on the weekend. (Or him admitting to it if he answered the door when/if they visit)

Having a Virgin cable box or a Sky TV dish on your house is not proof so they can't use this. This is also mentioned on chilijohncarne.
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Interesting that. How do they prove it's a live feed? I presume a time stamp on the video footage which can later be checked against actual broadcast times? That sounds quite tedious for them to document and submit though on a large scale?
Also, what if you delay the feed by a few seconds and it therefore becomes not live?
 
tnt sport you can only watch the program on catch up when it has finished, delayed watching in their app would be known & reportable by TNT;
and like virgin t&c say, they could suspend service if they see you don't have a license - hint virgin&tnt could provide records of what you watched.
 
Remind me…..why do you need a licence to watch ITV and C4 etc? When surely they are paid for my advertising? Does any of the licence fee go to them? Or is it just the BBC?
 
The vast majority of TV license income goes to the BBC, but the TVL model was defined back in the era of just two or three channels.

As it stands at present, the registered Public Service Broadcasters are BBC, ITV, C4, C5 (plus regional STV and S4C). They are all held to the same PSB requirements by OfCom, despite the varying funding models.

Other non-PSB channels still require a TV license too though, so it's really just an extension of the original model.
 
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Hades said:
Jesus, why let him in? Some random guy that could say he saw anything.
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He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV

steve5424 said:
Why on earth would you let them in??
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He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV. Rather just get it over and done with so i can get on with my life.
plasmahal said:
Why did you let a complete stranger into your house?

Don't be surprised if you get a summons now....
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He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV
Havent had anything come through since his visit.
Vulcan said:
The "enforcement officer" is actually a saleman who earns commission from either selling TV licences, or taking people to court. Letting them in your property is beyond stupid.
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We will see what comes of the visit but ive not had any more mail for a few weeks now.

I rather get it over an done with and its better if i opened the door and let him in so i could control the narrative rather than the wife.
 
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photoshop said:
He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV
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Official, what? Official salesman? He's works for a private firm, the badge was also made by that same firm, it's no different to the work badges that many people have. Presumably if someone claimed to work for Netflix, had a Neflix badge you would let them in too? Both people work for private companies and have zero authority.
 
photoshop said:
He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV
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Official what? He's a salesman working for a third party on commission. He doesn't work for the BBC directly. He gets paid commission to either sell you a licence or to find a reason for the BBC to take you to court. He is incentivised by his employer to do so.
 
photoshop said:
He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV


He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV. Rather just get it over and done with so i can get on with my life.

He was official- showed me the badge and ID and ive got nothing to hide as i dont watch basic TV
Havent had anything come through since his visit.

We will see what comes of the visit but ive not had any more mail for a few weeks now.

I rather get it over an done with and its better if i opened the door and let him in so i could control the narrative rather than the wife.
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photoshop said:
I rather get it over an done with and its better if i opened the door and let him in so i could control the narrative rather than the wife.
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I will add this too. Let's look at the two possible outcomes of letting him in:

1. You let him in. He's happy and walks away. Nothing happens.

2. You let him in. You accidentally say something that he uses against you (even if you are completely innocent and made a simple mistake when talking to him, or left the aerial plugged it etc, despite not using it). You end up being prosecuted or buying a licence to avoid it. Salesman is happy and gets a Brucie Bonus.


Now let's look at the one possible outcome of not letting him in:

3. He walks away.


Letting him in risks scenario 2 even if you are 100% innocent. Not letting him in always results in scenario 3 in 100% of cases. Why risk it?
 
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photoshop said:
I did have an inspector come round a few weeks ago after getting about 8 letters over the course of 4 months.

He asked if he could come in to check the TVso i let him in, turned on TV, he loaded up Plex and got to the "do you agree" screen [we dont use Plex], and then said thats fine and I will take you off the list.

He did say i should check iplayer too but he didnt bother and that i should uninstall Plex...i just said it came installed with the TV.
Had a brief chat to him and he said he has another 37 properties to visit that day!!!

However, last week i got another threatening letter so god knows what they are doing!
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Were the letters received addressed to you by name or just to the occupier?
 
Hades said:
I will add this too. Let's look at the two possible outcomes of letting him in:

1. You let him in. He's happy and walks away. Nothing happens.

2. You let him in. You accidentally say something that he uses against you (even if you are completely innocent and made a simple mistake when talking to him, or left the aerial plugged it etc, despite not using it). You end up being prosecuted or buying a licence to avoid it. Salesman is happy and gets a Brucie Bonus.


Now let's look at the one possible outcome of not letting him in:

3. He walks away.


Letting him in risks scenario 2 even if you are 100% innocent. Not letting him in always results in scenario 3 in 100% of cases. Why risk it?
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"Sorry, I don't do door to door sales, bye" and close the door.
 
Shadowness said:
Had anyone seen a letter to a name? All mine go to the 'occupier'. (immediately followed by the bin)
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I was trying to estabish if he has also put himself in a more detrimental position after letting them in of them now knowing his name.

But yep, all those occupier letters go in the bin. They can't take you to court (innocent or not) if they don't know who you are!
 
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I don't meet any of the criteria for requiring a TV License. After multiple threatening letters, I went online and completed the documentation declaring that I do not need a license. This is suppose to buy you 2 years unmolested.

Weeks later, I get a letter telling me they acknowledge I have declared I don't need a license, listing again all the criteria required for one, how I could be fined, imprisoned etc, someone could still visit me and I don't need to do anything if I don't meet any of the criteria.

Is this really necessary? Horrible people.
 
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