Prince Andrew is out!

I didn't think we know categorically what the civil court awarded .. her subsequent lifestyle doesn't seem consistent with the award ( harry's only worth £60M )
 
do_ron_ron said:
He did have sex wuth an underage girl though, which is a criminal case. He did not pay $12M to her out of the goodness of his heart.
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What criminal case.

There was a CIVIL case and the point of that is to fish for money, the case was killed off by paying 12m or whatever.

That's not even unusual for civil cases, small to international corporation level. What's the downsides of going to court, what's the upsides, can you afford to lose, can you afford to pay off the money demand right now and draw a line under this legal challenge.
 
Hotwired said:
What criminal case.

There was a CIVIL case and the point of that is to fish for money, the case was killed off by paying 12m or whatever.

That's not even unusual for civil cases, small to international corporation level. What's the downsides of going to court, what's the upsides, can you afford to lose, can you afford to pay off the money demand right now and draw a line under this legal challenge.
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Like all wealthy men he paid to try to make the case go away. There was never any chance of a senior Royal being up in court in America or any foreign country.
 
jpaul said:
BBC must be into this for click-bait - the accusations are the same as preceeding one in 2022 which they dont acknowledge/reference ,
and the wasted interviews this morning on r4 today about parliament rescinding the titles
(overshadowed chancellor having acknowledged ongong brexit cost at USA shindig)

BBC is still trying to cleanse it's soul after Saville.
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That's a tall order given there's multiple other prominent ex BBC employees who've been caught out as diddlers an/or more general rapists. Look at Tim Westwood, big Radio 1 name back in the day, just got done on multiple counts and there's a host of allegations regarding under age girls.
 
jpaul said:
if you look back at the evidence .. and, other victims haven't named him (yet)
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Remember she also accused Alan Deroshwitz (Epsteins lawyer) of having underage sex with her.. then dropped the case and said she must’ve been mistaken after he counter sued her.

Not enjoying arguing for accused sexual offenders here but coming back to what I said earlier, his name’s been dragged through the mud enough, the family are milking it, time for the press to move on and give genuine victims and causes some air time.
 
Hotwired said:
What criminal case.

There was a CIVIL case and the point of that is to fish for money, the case was killed off by paying 12m or whatever.

That's not even unusual for civil cases, small to international corporation level. What's the downsides of going to court, what's the upsides, can you afford to lose, can you afford to pay off the money demand right now and draw a line under this legal challenge.
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He did a Michael Jackson.
 
PA doesn't have a drug addiction ?
with the family saying PA should say what he knows, they & usa media, seem to have conveniently omitted the epstein files as potential evidence.


[I think the dog that didn't bark was Ronaldo (bought himself out)
jpaul said:
The original der spiegel investigation from 2017 on Ronaldo , interesting reading, about the 2009 events,
it sounds an extensive procedure for the defendant to have put herself through had it not been true.
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shifty_uk said:
Lol wtf..

These threads really are the pits sometimes.

All of you frothing at the mouth like Facebook aunties over some headlines.

The PA stuff is boring now, VG’s family are milking it (can’t blame them) and it’s a shame because it distracts from genuine abuse victims.

PA was never charged with anything, the Met found no grounds to pursue a case, most of what’s being chucked around is civil, not criminal. VG’s own statements have shifted over the years and been challenged in court as a result, it’s not the clear cut story you all want it to be. That’s not even mentioning her own lies and violent restraining order issues.

He was indeed involved with Epstein and he’s probably a bit of a creep but this constant outrage cycle over VG does nothing except drown out attention from actual abuse cases that could do with a spotlight.
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She wasn't underage in the UK but she was in the US so what would they charge him with here? The conviction rate for rape is pitifully low and its well into single digits cases that even make it to court and let be honest here, even if a copper found him in the act the chances of a prince being charged and prosecuted are pretty much zero. These guys are as close to above the law as it gets.
 
do_ron_ron said:
He did have sex wuth an underage girl though, which is a criminal case. He did not pay $12M to her out of the goodness of his heart.
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Last month I refunded a customer £150 for something that was their fault. Wasn't worth the hassle for me. I imagine that 12m to PA is no different. So it's hard to judge his guilt based on that
 
unwashed potato! said:
Last month I refunded a customer £150 for something that was their fault. Wasn't worth the hassle for me. I imagine that 12m to PA is no different. So it's hard to judge his guilt based on that
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You really believe Andrew has so much of his own money that paying out £12M would be trivial to him?

And if you do believe that, how do you think he got so rich?
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
He is a prince, I'm sorry but you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think he'd ever see the inside of a criminal court.
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There was never a criminal charge so there was no evasion of a criminal charge by status or otherwise.

On the basis of nothing, people are being real sure about things.
 
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