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tangey said:
An adaptor for 400V charging sounds like a real sticking plaster, its a major mistake that they didn't include it in the charging circuitry. Who the hell gets out and determines whether a particular charger is 400V or 800V technology.

I think the new GLC EQ is going to be the one for me.
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an adapter? really?
FFS we can do without that imo, i thought we had gotten past the chademo vs CCS nonsense now. its fine if it doesnt charge at full speed on the wrong architecture but it is the 1st i have heard that there is a new format which isnt backwards compatible.... that is a stupid idea imo.

maybe they just need to roll it into a new USB C format :D
 
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bigmike20vt said:
oh..... so you were posting FUD then? i should have probably checked before taking your post on faith!.
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not at all the ref'd adapter is inbuilt as was obvious to jonny - you wouldn't be playing with some black box between charger and car socket

e: the pint is - if it nonetheless behaves like polestar 3
e2: like having a heatpump as an option
 
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Some surprising news from my local JLR service centre. The parts are in to replace the failed battery module in the IPace!

They said they would aim to book me in within the next 2 weeks. The lad said he'd just completed a first aid course as they need to have a first aider at all times on site while working on an EV :D I guess you don't need one if you drop a gearbox on your foot.

The replacement for the IPace, a hybrid Passat, has a VIN number and is either on route or at Port of Exit waiting to come over. Hopefully I won't have both for very long.

With the weather turning, the IPace currently only just gets me to Cardiff when I'm toy car racing. I don't mind the wait to charge on way home as I get a bit of a kip after a long day and early start. The charger randomly just stopped and car was giving error message. Wouldn't charge on another charger so drove to another station on the way home. That too, the car gave an error message so had to turn it off, wait for everything to reset and try again. It's just not what you need when you're tired, it's raining and you just want to get home.
 
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why mention an adapter at all? esp as it would not be the 1st time they were used with EVs (yes a physical one) (with cars mostly in US but also tesla in the UK, as well as the chademo adapter)
 
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VincentHanna said:
Oh, interesting about the MY26 Polestar 3.

It might have an 800v architecture now, but it's reduced the maximum charging on 400v chargers (most of the UK) from 250kW to 120kW!

Only 800v chargers can give the 350kW speed.
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Amps limited. So without the volts you won’t get the kW
 
CaptainRAVE said:
I tend to stick between 30-80% most of the time. The occasional 100% for a longer journey and into the 20s when I forget to charge it again. It’s a lease though that I won’t keep, so I’m not overly bothered. I only use about 10-12% a day, a 90% charge is a reasonable compromise for the winter I guess.

I always wonder why on my car the charging socket points upwards slightly and how well sealed it is I.e. when charging and it’s chucking it down with rain.
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Same comment on mine. Does seem rather upwards vs others
 
Well after test driving lots of EV's to help me make my mind up. I've gone for an Ioniq 5 N-Line AWD with the 84kwh battery. 6 months old ex staff car, a massive reduction on new, 5 year warranty and a very generous trade in.

The car I enjoyed driving the most was the dual motor M3 Highland. However the price, not the most suitable body shape for my needs and the EM factor made it a no go with Mrs AB.

In the end I've bought a car well under budget saving a lot its still fast enough.
 
bigmike20vt said:
an adapter? really?
FFS we can do without that imo, i thought we had gotten past the chademo vs CCS nonsense now. its fine if it doesnt charge at full speed on the wrong architecture but it is the 1st i have heard that there is a new format which isnt backwards compatible.... that is a stupid idea imo.

maybe they just need to roll it into a new USB C format :D
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When you’ve run out of range a mile from home so you plug your phone in :D
 
AnastieByte said:
Well after test driving lots of EV's to help me make my mind up. I've gone for an Ioniq 5 N-Line AWD with the 84kwh battery. 6 months old ex staff car, a massive reduction on new, 5 year warranty and a very generous trade in.

The car I enjoyed driving the most was the dual motor M3 Highland. However the price, not the most suitable body shape for my needs and the EM factor made it a no go with Mrs AB.

In the end I've bought a car well under budget saving a lot its still fast enough.
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Great choice I love mine even with all the rattles…. Lol
 
SexyGreyFox said:
When I put a post about running it down to 10% and then up to 100% every know and then everybody took the pee out of me :)
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I spent ages worrying about this sort of thing along with how best to extend the battery life and get the best efficiency out of it, all that sort of stuff, before realising none of it really matters for the time you’ll probably keep the car anyway.

Unless you plan on running it into the ground for the next ten years, just keep it charged enough to do what you need to do the next day.
 
bigmike20vt said:
an adapter? really?
FFS we can do without that imo, i thought we had gotten past the chademo vs CCS nonsense now. its fine if it doesnt charge at full speed on the wrong architecture but it is the 1st i have heard that there is a new format which isnt backwards compatible.... that is a stupid idea imo.

maybe they just need to roll it into a new USB C format :D
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It isn't a new format. All other cars that are natively 800V systems, detect 400V incoming and have step-up circuitry to convert to 800V. My 3 year old EV6 has this.

Mercedes decided to not include it. I guess the bean counters decided that the cost saving was worth it on some assumption that their main markets have an abundance of 800V chargers, whereas the UK charging network has a large number of 400V chargers.

Would be a complete deal breaker for many in N.I. as the majority of DC chargers (with the possible exception of Belfast) are 400V.
 
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VincentHanna said:
Oh, interesting about the MY26 Polestar 3.

It might have an 800v architecture now, but it's reduced the maximum charging on 400v chargers (most of the UK) from 250kW to 120kW!

Only 800v chargers can give the 350kW speed.
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Most chargers you’d want to use are 800v anyway.

Outside of the Tesla network, 400v chargers tend to be sub 100kw, most ly 50kw.

Superchargers are the outlier, not the norm.
 
Penfold101 said:
I spent ages worrying about this sort of thing along with how best to extend the battery life and get the best efficiency out of it, all that sort of stuff, before realising none of it really matters for the time you’ll probably keep the car anyway.

Unless you plan on running it into the ground for the next ten years, just keep it charged enough to do what you need to do the next day.
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You are perfectly within your rights to have that attitude. But this is the very reason I feel it is important to ask for a full SoH check before buying used. You just don’t know how badly the battery was treated.
 
ICDP said:
You are perfectly within your rights to have that attitude. But this is the very reason I feel it is important to ask for a full SoH check before buying used. You just don’t know how badly the battery was treated.
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Indeed - I feel this should be industry standard, if not part of consumer law and should be supplied as part of the sale, especially as the used market grows over the next decade.
 
Picked up my car from Hyundai today after warranty fixes. On the way back from picking my daughter up the charge flap detached and bounced down the road. It looks like as part of the fix Hyundai just broke the flap off then glued it back on which did not work. Going to see the manager tomorrow. It has also been dented slightly just above the charge port.

I’m not happy.:mad:



 
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SexyGreyFox said:
When I put a post about running it down to 10% and then up to 100% every know and then everybody took the pee out of me :)
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The manual of my car states this exact thing - "It is recommended to fully charge the vehicle at a regular basis (at least once a week), and fully charge it from low battery (SOC <10%) once every three to six months".

Aside from that I tend to use the car until it has around 25% charge left then charge it as much as I can in the cheap rate window, aiming for 100% if I can. I ignore the 80% thing.
 
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