I think an ISP not supplying a router is a good thing, one less box to store in the loft.
The gateway software has come on a LONG way in the past few years, like a surprising amount of improvements.City Fibre
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The gateway software has come on a LONG way in the past few years, like a surprising amount of improvements.
Well if it means I don't have to spend 200 quid and works at the correct speeds then I'm happy with that. I'll keep looking into alternative routers.I think an ISP not supplying a router is a good thing, one less box to store in the loft.
Well, the UniFi Gateway will be capable of many more features than what an average ISP router will be capable of. But, if you don't need those extra features just gets something cheap and cheerful.
What are the benefits of having a ipv6 address as well as a non CG-NAT v4 one?
Generally IPV6 has 'cleaner' routes to destinations over ipv4, if your on a ISP that supports it (Aquiss) then it won't harm anything to turn it on, not all web servers support ipv6 so you'd still route on ipv4 to them.
So it might be a bit faster?
IPv6 enables a true end-to-end connection between two client devices rather than needing to get NAT involved and keep track of sessions and having to cope with the source port changing from what the client thought it was using. In practise all modern protocols don't care if they're going through NAT because it's become such a common thing, it's really only things like SIP, FTP, IPsec that get tripped up on it.
Having IPv6 is just nicer though, and increasingly a residential IPv4 service is behind CGNAT already, which is horrible.
Having IPv6 is just nicer though, and increasingly a residential IPv4 service is behind CGNAT already, which is horrible.
Why is CGNAT horrible?
A lot of people make this claim but can't show in real world it is much different currently.
Toob are open about using it which is why I see a lot of people give negative feedback about them over that one thing alone.
What do you mean by anything? Will my usage of things like Anydesk, Discord, the odd hosted server via Steam or Epic be a no go or are you talking about proper self hosted stuff such as if I wanted to run my own VPN or file server?
Most of those are server/client relationships and the vendors host the infrastructure for them, but doing a hosted game server won't work behind CGNAT unless it works differently to the classic game server setup like you'd have had in Quake, Unreal Tournament etc.
You sharing public IP addresses.
Imagine if you had to share your credit file with everyone on your street, you relying on others behaving themselves, to not affect your own reputation.
It also makes it much harder to do clean end to end connectivity, which will affect some use cases of the internet.
It really is nothing like sharing your credit file more like sharing your home address so it really is not a big deal at all.
Why would it matter what others do it doesn't.
I tried to find a list of providers which are CGNAT couldn't find a complete one but it looks like 90% of UK is this and if you want static you pay extra.
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Why do you ask if you know the answers? If you don't see CGNAT as a deal breaker then that's obviously a legitimate opinion to have, but make the case on its own merits, don't just ask other people to tell you why CGNAT is bad.
90% of the UK isn't CGNAT, it's probably the other way around by connection quantity. All the big longstanding providers like BT, TalkTalk, Vodafone, Virgin, Sky have massive IPv4 allocations so don't need to go near CGNAT. It's the altnets that tend to default to CGNAT to make more efficient use of their ranges. Some of these altnets do CGNAT and no IPv6, which I would avoid.
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I asked because as I said people are making out it's a massive deal breaking yet are not coming out with anything which stands out for a normal person which is a negative to justify paying for example almost double the price.
I should have been more clear but you appear to have got it I was referring to Alt nets.
Sounds okay for my use and if I run into any issues I see I can get a staticIP from Toob for £8 a month which still ends up being cheaper than my current connection, thanks for the response
