Poll: *** Xbox Series X|S - General Discussion Thread ***

Which will you buy?

  • Series X

    Votes: 538 59.1%

  • Series S

    Votes: 107 11.7%

  • Not interested

    Votes: 241 26.5%

  • Both

    Votes: 25 2.7%
  • Total voters
    911
xaldub said:
Which 80m do you speak of ? If you mean console players, the majority won't buy a £1000+ "hybrid" device from Xbox, they'll just switch to another console ie. Playstation or build PCs.
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Sure, but who said it'd be £1000+? If the next xbox is that price, PlayStation won't be much different.

But a hybrid device offering more than just a console could win over many.

I could see a parent thinking should I buy just a games console for my kid, or a games console that is also some version of a pc so that they can do their home work and game, especially if the price is less than £100 difference between rival consoles.

The one thing though is when xbox one came out and tried to be home entertainment system. That was a massive fail as it tried to do too much while forgetting it is a games console at heart.

Maybe they learnt their lesson

For me the next console I get will almost definitely be a PlayStation for the fact that I cannot stand to use the PlayStation girly controllers.
 
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unwashed potato! said:
Sure, but who said it'd be £1000+? If the next xbox is that price, PlayStation won't be much different.
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I think they are different products to be fair; Sony, Nintendo and Valve have successful walled gardens where they can afford to subsidise hardware. To quote Sarah Bond; "The next-gen console will be a very premium and high-end curated experience". And obviously people like Kepler are saying it too.

 
xaldub said:
Their current "hybrid" device ( ROG Xbox Ally X ) is already £1000. For that amount of money parents will more likely buy their kids a laptop for productivity & gaming.
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yep so they need to sort that out as currently the marketing or direction isn't matching anything that people really want.

but a handheld doesn't really compare to a laptop imo. parents wouldn't look at one or the other.
 
The issue for them is this is not am overnight concept but a historical fact in console history that consoles are something that is accessible for the many, not the few.

Then on the other side of the coin, the challenge for them is they are now having to compete with PC gaming. I know the numbers say PC gaming is growing, and there are a lot of people throwing money at big graphic cards that are 3x the price of a PS5. The issue they face it is a PC. So you are now telling people, sending a message that your "console" is also a PC. Sounds a bit like they tried to tell people their console is also an all-in-1 entertainment box for the TV.....we know how that mixed messaging went last time.

And where would I connect this new luxury box? If I connect it to my TV, the chances of me using the PC side of thing is almost zero. I want to use a joypad sitting on my sofa, not pull up a fold up table for a keyboard and mouse.

If I hook this up to a monitor, then it will be like a PC...and then why don't I just get a PC (pay a little more even) for it to be more modular with more upgrade paths? Why lock myself in without the subsidies of a console?

And as for better graphic, I think the for the past few years, a PS5 and current XBSX offers comparable graphics to any of the PC gaming. Any difference I can personally live with, so at least for me. Would I have £1000 "console" that doesn't know what it is or meant to be. or would I want a PS5 and a Mac mini for the same money?

I would choose the latter every time.

p.s. I paid £400 for my PS5 at launch and only £500 for my Mac Mini.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
The issue for them is this is not am overnight concept but a historical fact in console history that consoles are something that is accessible for all, not the few.

Then on the other side of the coin, the challenge for them is they are now having to compete with PC gaming. I know the numbers say PC gaming is growing, and there are a lot of people throwing money at big graphic cards that are 3x the price of a PS5. The issue they face it is a PC. So you are now telling people, sending a message that your "console" is also a PC. Sounds a bit like they tried to tell people their console is also an all-in-1 entertainment box for the TV.....we know how that mixed messaging went last time.

And where would I connect this new luxury box? If I connect it to my TV, the chances of me using the PC side of thing is almost zero. I want to use a joypad sitting on my sofa, not pull up a fold up table for a keyboard and mouse.

If I hook this up to a monitor, then it will be like a PC...and then why don't I just get a PC (pay a little more even) for it to be more modular with more upgrade paths? Why lock myself in without the subsidies of a console?

And as for better graphic, I think the for the past few years, a PS5 and current XBSX offers comparable graphics to any of the PC gaming. Any difference I can personally live with, so at least for me. Would I have £1000 "console" that doesn't know what it is or meant to be. or would I want a PS5 and a Mac mini for the same money?

I would choose the latter every time.

p.s. I paid £400 for my PS5 at launch and only £500 for my Mac Mini.
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Another issue is repairability. If it turns out the price is £1100, and has zero repairability because of proprietary parts it would be another reason i would go a full-fledged PC over the Xbox. Or go with PS5 which will probably be fair cheaper, if they keep the traditional subsidised model.
 
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Right now, I am out.

I'll play the PC games on my Steam Deck, anything that need that extra graphical grunt, I'll get it on the PS5/6. Heck, if the way the Mac is going, by the time this new Luxury box is out, the Mac Mini in that generation is going to be some gaming machine anyway, they might even improve on the compatibility more even.

I also have a Switch 2, so it is not like I am lacking in options. I know I am in a position where i can choose, and I would not choose this new box from what it is offering.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
Sounds a bit like they tried to tell people their console is also an all-in-1 entertainment box for the TV.....we know how that mixed messaging went last time.
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exactly

Raymond Lin said:
And where would I connect this new luxury box? If I connect it to my TV, the chances of me using the PC side of thing is almost zero. I want to use a joypad sitting on my sofa, not pull up a fold up table for a keyboard and mouse.
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i guess, if they go down this route, they really need to hammer the idea that it's a console, but for kids who have everything in one bedroom, it's a console and pc, so great for homework etc. i can 100% see a market for that sort of device. buying a console for a child may be something parents don't wish to do, but buying a pc for a kid to do home work which happens to beable to play games is something i can see parents getting sold on.

the issue is they can't have a ridiculous price, unless there are multiple versions of the next xbox, similiar to the series s and series x
 
unwashed potato! said:
i guess, if they go down this route, they really need to hammer the idea that it's a console, but for kids who have everything in one bedroom, it's a console and pc, so great for homework etc. i can 100% see a market for that sort of device. buying a console for a child may be something parents don't wish to do, but buying a pc for a kid to do home work which happens to beable to play games is something i can see parents getting sold on.

the issue is they can't have a ridiculous price, unless there are multiple versions of the next xbox, similiar to the series s and series x
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I don't see a parent buying into it from that angle. Xbox's brand is associated with gaming, they spent 25 years flying that flag (with a short stint trying something else). To convice a parent to spend £1k for their homework PC with an xbox brand box? They would think their kids are lying to them and trying to pull one over their eye and just want a console.

Not to mention if they want to get their kids a PC for homework there are amny cheap machines under £500 like HP....notwithstanding the fact that they are not really great machines...in their eyes, it's just a. computer. So like you said, from a price point it won't fly. A Mac Mini M4 will be as good for homework as any £1000 box, or £10,000 box. No one needs an expensive PC for homework.
 
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xaldub said:
But they can do that now by buying a desktop PC or laptop. What's so unique and enticing about an Xbox branded equivalent ?
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Well that's what Microsoft need to figure out how do they sell it.

But I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle.

Houses don't have desktop pc's in them any more. Kids get bought consoles. Xbox competes against PlayStation more than it does against a pc.

So Microsoft could try to add something to their console that PlayStation won't ever have, and get a pc back into the home.
 
I don’t think any one has an genuine belief they will market this idea well as there not doing a good job of it already.

There naming is crap as well look at the Xbox Rog ally it implies it plays all Xbox games when it doesn’t it plays pc game pass games and pc games in general. users Xbox library isn’t all there as play anywhere isn’t on every title.


The whole thing is a mess already.

The avg joe working parent buying a consol for there kid isn’t gonna spend £1000 on some hybrid and likely would go on blind to have of information needed.

Microsoft need a marketing master class and make a hybrid os flawless (again both unlikely)

If not it’s gonna go way of people actually moving to pc and plenty of gaming pc can be had for less than £1000 that can play games perfectly fine or they will go to PlayStation.

Ultimately they will end up as a publisher imo there on walk of slow death out of hardware imo.

I have a PC and consoles along with the original Rog Ally Z1E

console for simple chill on sofa gaming, pc when I want something else like rts or certain shooters I prefer on pc.

Of course that gives me the bane of windows and it’s sometimes annoying driver issues,patching verifying files, corrupted updates etc if I had to start dealing with that on a new Xbox I’m out I’ll just stick to my pc.
 
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